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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    20,000

    Interesting statistic about all Sydney home crowds in VFL/AFL history, including finals is that we have a current average of 19,876 over 273 games (over 5 million total attendence)

    But to break through the 20,000 average for all games we have to make up a mere 33,626 (over 20,000) in future games.

    This could quite easily go this year. And is a significant milestone as it is believed we have a core of 20,000 fans, and this will prove that even over the worst of the worst, along with the best, and with 1 solitary GF loss to go on, we can still average 20K a game.
  • JF_Bay22_SCG
    expat Sydneysider
    • Jan 2003
    • 3978

    #2
    Re: 20,000

    Originally posted by barry

    This could quite easily go this year. And is a significant milestone as it is believed we have a core of 20,000 fans, and this will prove that even over the worst of the worst, along with the best, and with 1 solitary GF loss to go on, we can still average 20K a game.
    Interesting stat Barry.

    I'd say our Sydney-based hard-core following is around 17-19000, which roughly mirrors our Sydney-based membership tally, give or take a 1000 or so.

    It shows how much we have come when the media are calling a crowd of just under 24000 as "disappointing". NRL clubs would die for the attendences we get each week.

    Hopefully the Sainters game will get a better crowd. It deserves to. With a crowd back to its 1997 glory days we CAN beat St Kilda.

    JF
    "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
    (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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    • Alec
      On the Rookie List
      • May 2004
      • 51

      #3
      Re: Re: 20,000

      Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
      Interesting stat Barry.

      I'd say our Sydney-based hard-core following is around 17-19000, which roughly mirrors our Sydney-based membership tally, give or take a 1000 or so.



      JF
      Certainly has come a ways from the hard core of 8000 or so 9 yrs back.

      17 000 might be a bit conservative, tho. We seem to regularly get 22 000 turning up on rainy days when our form isn't great.

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      • Old Royboy
        Support Staff
        • Mar 2004
        • 879

        #4
        A major factor in the drop off in crowds from 1998 onwards was good old fashioned greed.

        Up to 1997 a general entry ticket at the SCG got you into any of the concourses, plus the Messenger Stand. The change to reserved seat status of the concourses and Messenger stand in 1998 resulted in a lot of people who came every week on general entry taking out memberships to avoid the excessive reserve seat premium. But it had a much bigger impact on the ?walk up? numbers, which have never fully recovered. The same thing occurs at that dump Optus Oval ? walk up 1 hour before game time and get slugged to sit in the Legends Stand. If our concourse members were concentrated into the best concourse seats rather than scattered as they are now. and the balance freed up as general entry our crowds would increase almost overnight.

        I would be interested to know if the change which took place in 1998 was driven by the club or the SCG trust.

        For all that our ?base crowd? has increased by 2-3000 over the past couple of years.
        Pay peanuts get monkeys

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        • bricon
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 277

          #5
          Originally posted by Old Royboy
          I would be interested to know if the change which took place in 1998 was driven by the club or the SCG trust.

          The SCG Trust has no influence (or interest) on the pricing structure that the ground hirers impose for tickets to their events. The Swans (probably in consultation with the AFL) determine the pricing policy for tickets at the SCG.

          The 1998 ticketing decisions started and finished at the desk of Kelvin Templeton.

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          • Bart
            CHHHOMMMMMPPP!!!!
            • Feb 2003
            • 1360

            #6
            Originally posted by Old Royboy
            A major factor in the drop off in crowds from 1998 onwards was good old fashioned greed.

            Up to 1997 a general entry ticket at the SCG got you into any of the concourses, plus the Messenger Stand. The change to reserved seat status of the concourses and Messenger stand in 1998 resulted in a lot of people who came every week on general entry taking out memberships to avoid the excessive reserve seat premium. But it had a much bigger impact on the ?walk up? numbers, which have never fully recovered. The same thing occurs at that dump Optus Oval ? walk up 1 hour before game time and get slugged to sit in the Legends Stand. If our concourse members were concentrated into the best concourse seats rather than scattered as they are now. and the balance freed up as general entry our crowds would increase almost overnight.

            I would be interested to know if the change which took place in 1998 was driven by the club or the SCG trust.

            For all that our ?base crowd? has increased by 2-3000 over the past couple of years.
            When has there been an occasion in the last few years where the Hill has been sold out ?

            If someone wants to attend a game, and not sign up as a member and wants to pay the cheapest price, let them sit on the Hill.

            Can't think how you would believe that people aren't coming because they can't sit on the wing.

            To suggest our crowds would increase overnight is stretching it.

            In addition I sit on the O'Reilly concourse, and there is no policing of who sits there at all. So those in the know normally filter in when the game starts

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