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  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    Fosidke in for Saddo

    Sydney has made one change to the team that defeated the Western Bulldogs last weekend for Sunday's game against St Kilda at the SCG.

    Nic Fosdike has been named on the interchange bench and replaces the injured Jason Saddington (knee).

    The senior d?buts of Scott McGlone and Sean Dempster were postponed after they were chopped from the Swans' extended bench on Friday. They are emergency players along with Heath James.

    Nick Davis was named in the Swans' 22 despite continuing fitness doubts.

    Jason Blake has made way for midfielder Heath Black, who returns to St Kilda's unbeaten side.

    Blake was cut from St Kilda's extended interchange bench on Friday after playing in his side's past three wins. He has played six games for St Kilda this year.

    Black, who was overlooked at selection last weekend despite having served a suspension, will begin the round 11 match on the interchange bench. Leigh Montagna, Justin Peckett and Blake are the Saints' emergencies.


  • Charlie
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4101

    #2
    Damn it... why not Jamesy?
    We hate Anthony Rocca
    We hate Shannon Grant too
    We hate scumbag Gaspar
    But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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    • midaro
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 1042

      #3
      James for Davis to come, methinks.

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      • Thunder Shaker
        Aut vincere aut mori
        • Apr 2004
        • 4159

        #4
        I suspect Davo is being given a chance to prove his fitness on game day. I expect Heath will probably play; having an extra defender will help because it gives us more options.
        "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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        • lizz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16737

          #5
          I reckon the Weagles game showed how having a player incapable of chasing his opponent (in Davis) can be a liability. I think they would be mad to play him, particularly in a game where the mantra has to be to keep the pressure on every single opponent for all 4 quarters. You can just see someone like Aussie Jones matching up on Davis and running off him all afternoon.

          Davis is also such an important player to the team in the longer term that delaying his recovery by playing him too early is just plain daft.

          Fantastic though it would be to have a fully fit Davis in the team, I see no positives at all from playing him if there is any lingering injury cloud over him.

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          • BAM_BAM
            Support Staff
            • Jun 2003
            • 1820

            #6
            Originally posted by Charlie
            Damn it... why not Jamesy?
            I think they've been nursing him in the ressies a bit. Perhaps his ankle is still an small worry?
            Here's my heart and you can break it
            I need some release, release, release
            We need
            Love and peace

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            • Tooth Fairy
              Regular in the Side
              • Aug 2003
              • 724

              #7
              Originally posted by lizz
              I reckon the Weagles game showed how having a player incapable of chasing his opponent (in Davis) can be a liability. I think they would be mad to play him, particularly in a game where the mantra has to be to keep the pressure on every single opponent for all 4 quarters. You can just see someone like Aussie Jones matching up on Davis and running off him all afternoon.

              Davis is also such an important player to the team in the longer term that delaying his recovery by playing him too early is just plain daft.

              Fantastic though it would be to have a fully fit Davis in the team, I see no positives at all from playing him if there is any lingering injury cloud over him.
              I am so relieved that someone else here feels the exact same way as me. It saved me from going into a tirade as to how soft I (personally) think Nick is (at times) and how playing unfit yet crucial players is detrimental to our goals.

              I mean, I can see Nick as being an absolutely superb, astonishing even, player when fully fit. But only half fit, I think he lacks a bit of heart and perhaps is a bit of a mummy's boy. That's harsh I know, but god damn it prove me wrong Nick please.
              If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.

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              • lizz
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                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16737

                #8
                Originally posted by Tooth Fairy
                I am so relieved that someone else here feels the exact same way as me. It saved me from going into a tirade as to how soft I (personally) think Nick is (at times) and how playing unfit yet crucial players is detrimental to our goals.

                I mean, I can see Nick as being an absolutely superb, astonishing even, player when fully fit. But only half fit, I think he lacks a bit of heart and perhaps is a bit of a mummy's boy. That's harsh I know, but god damn it prove me wrong Nick please.
                Not sure I completely agree with that sentiment - though the bit about not playing unfit I do, as above.

                My take on Davis is that he got himself into really good shape for the start of the year was champing at the bit to really get stuck in and have his best season ever. The fact that he got injured quite badly less than half a game into the season must have been really frustrating, and he probably convinced himself to come back before he should have done. He then got gradually worse, playing with a sore hip, to the point he was close to useless in the WC game.

                I thought he really came out firing last week and it was really unlucky he picked up another, completely unrelated injury.

                My view on not player unfit players goes for almost all of them - not Davis. There are a handful I think that playing around the 80% fit mark makes sense because of what the role they play in the team - I'd put Ball, Hall and O'Loughlin in that category but not many others. Crouch I'd probably back to work his way through an injury, but not many of the other running players.

                Kennelly and Maxfield are two who have been playing this year under duress and it is clear that they have been a shadow of their normal selves. Now that they are both regaining full fitness the difference is obvious.

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9718

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tooth Fairy
                  I am so relieved that someone else here feels the exact same way as me. It saved me from going into a tirade as to how soft I (personally) think Nick is (at times) and how playing unfit yet crucial players is detrimental to our goals.

                  I mean, I can see Nick as being an absolutely superb, astonishing even, player when fully fit. But only half fit, I think he lacks a bit of heart and perhaps is a bit of a mummy's boy. That's harsh I know, but god damn it prove me wrong Nick please.
                  That is pretty harsh... It seems Nicky D came back early from the hip injury and played through it because the team needed it... his ankle took a little bit of a pounding in the doggies game and he came back on for a bit after, presumably, getting a pain killer. Always gets pointed out as being soft by folks, but IMO it does seem to be getting (a bit) unwarranted as he gets older.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • Tooth Fairy
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 724

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lizz
                    Not sure I completely agree with that sentiment - though the bit about not playing unfit I do, as above.

                    Absolutely lizz, I agree. It was my own play on words as to where I think Davo might be at. I knew at the time while I was writing it that you wouldn't agree with my opinion of Nick. But it was a good time to air it out because I've been mulling over it for quite a few weeks now. Is he soft yet "full of potential"? Will we ever see that potential into fruition? I'm hoping we will but it's a little black duck that is sitting on my shoulder.

                    edit: Like I said Lizz, it was your sentiments expressed that prevented me from going in to a tirade about how I feel about Nicky D at this stage of his career. Bear in mind that"career" infers "a long time." I think he is valuable for the club, but at the moment, the way I perceive him as and being played injured, I think he is having a negative effect on our short term goals of winning games.

                    All this doesn't mena I don't like him or respect him.
                    Last edited by Tooth Fairy; 5 June 2004, 08:04 PM.
                    If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.

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                    • Tooth Fairy
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 724

                      #11
                      I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's more not an indictment on Nick, but on the club's policies of playing half fit players. That's probably more my beef.
                      If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.

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                      • Tooth Fairy
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 724

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lizz

                        My view on not player unfit players goes for almost all of them - not Davis. There are a handful I think that playing around the 80% fit mark makes sense because of what the role they play in the team - I'd put Ball, Hall and O'Loughlin in that category but not many others. Crouch I'd probably back to work his way through an injury, but not many of the other running players.

                        Aaah there we go. We do agree with each other. It's just I can never be stuffed typing how I feel. And it's probably a case of (and no disrespect here) me having played football with personas similar to ND and having seen their effects on team morale. But that's country football and I guess totally different from AFL
                        If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.

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                        • Tooth Fairy
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 724

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lizz


                          Kennelly and Maxfield are two who have been playing this year under duress and it is clear that they have been a shadow of their normal selves. Now that they are both regaining full fitness the difference is obvious.
                          Exactly. I think I was the first to post on here my belief that Kennelly was playing injured to some degree. Don't know where it was I posted it and I will never have the urge to dredge up the post, but I said it. It just goes hand in hand with what I was talking about playing unfit players. But were we ever in the position not to? Probably not. And therefore, it is not nick's fault that he's had to play injured
                          Last edited by Tooth Fairy; 5 June 2004, 08:26 PM.
                          If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.

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                          • Tooth Fairy
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 724

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stellation
                            That is pretty harsh... It seems Nicky D came back early from the hip injury and played through it because the team needed it... his ankle took a little bit of a pounding in the doggies game and he came back on for a bit after, presumably, getting a pain killer. Always gets pointed out as being soft by folks, but IMO it does seem to be getting (a bit) unwarranted as he gets older.
                            No it is NOT harsh. It is objective. I am saying that there are different character types. Those that can played injured. And those that can't. I see ND in the latter. It's not his fault that he had to play. That's just circumstantial.
                            If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.

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                            • stellation
                              scott names the planets
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 9718

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tooth Fairy
                              No it is NOT harsh. It is objective. I am saying that there are different character types. Those that can played injured. And those that can't. I see ND in the latter. It's not his fault that he had to play. That's just circumstantial.
                              Sorry, I think I must have been confused by

                              Originally posted by Tooth Fairy
                              That's harsh I know, but god damn it prove me wrong Nick please.
                              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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