Jeff Wells

[redunderthebed]

Posted: 5th June 2004 10:47 PM | Profile | Private Message | Search | Add user to your buddy list

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Originally posted by Captain
I agree with Jeff that so many on this site never have a bad work to say about a player.

I have commented on the performances of Saddo, Fosdike, Maxfield and Mathews this year and ever time I'm shot down in flames for having a go at someones favourite little player.

Most of the time, those doing the shooting were nowhere to be seen during the 80's and early 90's. Wells has it right and understandably so considering those with the strongest opinions are post 96 chardonnay sippers.
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'Matthews has annoyed me a bit this year... I realize he looks to have taken a next step and is picking up a lot of disposals, but I just don't know how smart a lot of his disposals are. '

you clearly must be one of the wackers that the captain refers to.
just check the performance of Matthews ( read stats.and look at his productive possessions) then you might learn about the game .Obviously Ben is one of our top 5 players and has been for years but don't let facts get in the way of a glass of chardonnay.

[chammond]

Originally posted by dawson
According to him - Yes.

I wonder if he's any good at writing match reports? . . . . . . .

[stellation]

Originally posted by redunderthebed
Posted: 5th June 2004 10:47 PM | Profile | Private Message | Search | Add user to your buddy list

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Originally posted by Captain
I agree with Jeff that so many on this site never have a bad work to say about a player.

I have commented on the performances of Saddo, Fosdike, Maxfield and Mathews this year and ever time I'm shot down in flames for having a go at someones favourite little player.

Most of the time, those doing the shooting were nowhere to be seen during the 80's and early 90's. Wells has it right and understandably so considering those with the strongest opinions are post 96 chardonnay sippers.
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'Matthews has annoyed me a bit this year... I realize he looks to have taken a next step and is picking up a lot of disposals, but I just don't know how smart a lot of his disposals are. '

you clearly must be one of the wackers that the captain refers to.
just check the performance of Matthews ( read stats.and look at his productive possessions) then you might learn about the game .Obviously Ben is one of our top 5 players and has been for years but don't let facts get in the way of a glass of chardonnay.

Hi, I don't really drink chardonnay and I've been going to games for a little while now.

I thought the point was that people are too protective of players when others are critical of them, surely you are doing the same thing here? Ben was one of the players mentioned in that post, so perhaps you are the "wacker"? I didn't exactly go into a tirade about him, I really like Ben's play and I just expressed that he has annoyed me a bit this year... and that is only because I feel that sometimes he makes the wrong decisions and should know better.

Sorry if I offended you

[footyhead]

Give em Curry Jeff. Some on this board are so sanctimonious it does them good to get a little offended.
But please also understand that Aussie rules is the strangest of games and that although I think it is healthy for the press to critizise a team, the Swans seasone is far from over.
As Malcolm Blight once said " the AFL seasone is a marathon, not a sprint". Other than that..... mostly I agree with the spirit and fun of what you have said.
Sydney also needs a very good tacktical analitical journo on the Swans case like they have in Adelaide.

[penga]

Originally posted by footyhead
Give em Curry Jeff. Some on this board are so sanctimonious it does them good to get a little offended.
But please also understand that Aussie rules is the strangest of games and that although I think it is healthy for the press to critizise a team, the Swans seasone is far from over.
As Malcolm Blight once said " the AFL seasone is a marathon, not a sprint". Other than that..... mostly I agree with the spirit and fun of what you have said.
Sydney also needs a very good tacktical analitical journo on the Swans case like they have in Adelaide.

AHA!!! footyhead is JEFF!!!!

how can you spell sanctimonious right, and then spell season and tactical wrong???

LOL - this is funny:

Einhorn is Finkle - Finkle is Einhorn!

Footyhead is Jeff - Jeff is Footyhead!

i think this would explain why he feels he has been crucified on this site

I was altered to them on a Swans fans website, where I have copped a hammering for daring to criticise anything about the lovely little Swannies.

he doesnt mention anything about his article!!!

[barry]

Originally posted by monopoly19
He is the only name I can come up with when I try to recall a Sydney-based AFL columnist. That says something, I think.

How could you forget a name like "Nikki Tugwell" ?

[monopoly19]

Originally posted by barry
How could you forget a name like "Nikki Tugwell" ?

I'm not a man.

[Schneidergirl]

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, though some take theirs to the extreme!

I am not a chardonnay sipping supporter, and have said before I have been going to the games (as a youngster, yes) since 86 but I don't feel the need to bag OUR players out. Obviously some times players aren't up to scratch, and they should be playing better but sticking up for my darling swannies shouldn't mean I know less about the game!

Although I have never really disliked Jeff Wells I think Saturday's column makes him look like a bit of a whinger. He has obviously taken offence to what members of a website think of him, but to go broadcasting it in a public newspaper looks, to me, pathetic. He should be a better man/journo and not sink to that level.

Just MO though....

PS. RWO newsest member is none other than... Jeff Wells!

[Ruck'n'Roll]

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[bricon]

OK, now we have the result of the weekend?s game; maybe it?s time to dissect exactly what Wells had to say about us in his article on Saturday.

Since the mid-?80s, when Tom Hafey had the team and only 6000 blood-stained wretches came to the games, in Sydney papers I have given the Swans hectares of space that would have gone to rugby league, because I desperately wanted the code to flourish.

That?s certainly admirable Jeff, but you forgot to mention, that in those halcyon days, the Swans (through QBE) actually paid the Telegraph for space in the paper. That disgraceful stance by the paper was as bad as the notorious ?cash for comments? scandal that tore through the Sydney radio scene a year or two ago ? it was certainly bordering on corrupt conduct by the paper. You filed stories on the Swans because your editor directed you to; if the editor wanted you to file stories about the price of spuds ? you would be out at the fruit markets at 3 am talking to potato farmers and wholesalers. There were already a large number of RL writers ahead of you in the pecking order (Peter Frilingos, Mike Gibson, Ray Chesterton etc) ? you got to file stories about (then) minority interest sports because you were a long way down the pecking order.

What a waste of time and effort on so many boofheads. Some are just plonkers who can?t distinguish a column from a news report. But for the seriously twisted and over-caffinated turkeys the Swans are now beyond criticism, even when they disappoint their coach.

What?s with the name calling Jeff? You are supposed to be a professional journo; yet you cannot seem to distinguish between a fan website and independent, unbiased reporting. Many fans here choose not to bag Swan?s players under any circumstances, while others here bag away to their hearts? content. That?s the nature of these websites Jeff; we don?t purport to be anything other than a fans site. What you read in here is like overhearing a casual conversation in a pub, it might be interesting, but it ain?t necessarily absolute truth.

They get applauded for losing quarters. One hard word and the chat rats rant, you have no RIGHT to be given space in a newspaper. You know nothing about the game. You must be a News Limited rugby league stooge hired to put Aussie rules down.

Some people applaud poor performances, but so what? They?ve paid their money and they are entitled to do whatever they want at the game. You must admit that News Limited isn?t held in very high esteem by many Sydney football fans, with very good reason (see my earlier comments pertaining to the Tele?s ?cash for space? policy in the ?80s); they are also perceived as having a HUGE conflict of interest where football is concerned (see my comments after your next quote).

These drongos ought to try being a rugby league fan in Melbourne and see how many pages a week they get in the press. But at the risk of deluding these clowns even further, can Sydney match up to St Kilda right now?

There you go with the name calling again Jeff ? you really need to lighten up. If rugby league cannot get publicity in Melbourne, there?s really something seriously wrong at News Limited. The Melbourne Storm are bankrolled by your media organization Jeff, while the NRL is 50% owned by News; the Storm and NRL are virtually subsidiaries of News Limited (for Crissake a News executive even took charge of the Canterbury Bulldogs after the recent Coffs Harbour scandal). The interest in rugby league must be pitiful in Melbourne if the company that virtually owns the code and the local team can?t be bothered covering them to a great extent.

...can Sydney clamp down on a team which has kicked 419 more points and let in 81 less. If they do the chat rats will have a field day. Sack any media moron who suggested it might never happen.

The answer to the first part can be found in today?s papers (even the Tele); you finally got it right with your last sentence; you are passed your use-by-date as an AFL writer Jeff, maybe it's finally time to start filing those stories about the price of potatoes .

[Barry Schneider]

Wow.Jeff doesn't cop a bagging very well.
To be fair to him he wasn't always with the Tele.I use to read him when he wrote for the Sydney Morning Herald so he probably wrote about the swans off his own back.

[BAM_BAM]

I was more than a little upset with the chardonnay comment (I hate the stuff ), I think it's one we often have thrown at us and you know how much it hurts us Jeff.

On reflection, the only thing you really let us down with, was not actually mentioning the site.

If retirement is soon approaching, I will miss the reading. I get the paper everyday and go straight to the AFL section, read anything on our boys, then on the days of his columns, I go to them and have a read and usually a laugh.

Really Jeff's columns and this site are all about OPINION. If we all agreed with each other all the time, it would be a boring old world. I just take offence when it gets a personal.

It's amazing just how my views, haven't changed, but in some ways have been influenced by different posters on this site. That's why I spent so much time here, to learn and grow my footy knowledge.

[CureTheSane]

Yep.

I bet his reason for not mentioning the site is not to give us 'undue' publicity.

But he should have at least given his readers the opportunity to see what the hell he was on about....

[bloodboy]

My, my, this is funny. Apparently we can't cop any criticism...? At least I didn't take out a column in a newspaper and have a little cry when we copped some criticism. By the way, it was mentioned before that this guy gets paid for writing his crap...I don't think so. I think he pays his $80, for two column inches, every time he wants to have a whine about something and gets it all of his chest. Thsi bloke thinks he is trying to support Aussie Rules into NSW, when he is just ragging out the team. Criticism is a necessary part of improvement Jeff, but there are two types...constructive and useless. Yours is the latter.

[timthefish]

i have supported the swans since being introduced properly to the game in 1998. given the timing i apparently should be a well primed chardonnay drinker and have gained much from jeff wells' columns.
well i hate chardonnay (love reisling) and think jeff wells' articles are absolute rubbish. while i acknowledge he has been one of the more prolific afl writers in this city he is still the worst in the land.
as has been pointed out, he is a relatively junior writer who writes what he is told. he has very little understanding of the game and has to resort to league-style interpretations of sportsmanship ("toughness" and parochial ambitions) to get an article. he mimics most of his style from patrick smith, who at least gets to the point after the first five paragraphs of wind.
do you think i owe you gratitude jeff? well thankyou, thanks for nothing.