Tragedy ...

[Mattyt]

I was actually going to suggest that very thing, as a mark of respect.

The thread would be what all threads are, an expression of opinion, it's just another matter for us to talk about, unfortunately one that has stemmed from tragedy.

[NMWBloods]

I think some people are getting blinded by this tragedy in terms of understanding what happened in the game.

In the overall scheme of things, the game (any game) is irrelevant to a person's life.

Therefore if you don't want to discuss the game as it is too distressing that is completely understandable.

However, in terms of looking at what happened in the game and the fadeout in the last qtr, it is not clear that it had an impact on the players.

This comment is not made to "dis the players" or say they are meant to be "machines." It is simply trying to understand what happened to the team.

If the tragedy had happened at 3 qtr time, then a last quarter collapse would be completely understandable.

That the 'Roos were destroying the Swans in the first 9 minutes of the quarter and were comfortably looking like running over the top of us, which all happened beforehand, suggests that the Swans team had already collapsed.

Did all the players know half-way through the quarter? Well, we don't know at the moment. However, I am suggesting that it is unlikely. There were not a heap of interchanges made in the last ten minutes, new players are not going to chat to ones on the ground about what was unfolding at the bench, and the players on the ground are very unlikely to have understood what was happening over on the bench.

If they did know, which I think highly unlikely, then I think the last 10-15 minutes must have been very tough. However, from a football perspective we should never have been in that position.

I think, based on what we know now plus also what had happened early in the last quarter, the football result and the terrible death are completely separate incidents and should not be linked or discussed together.

[Bear]

Originally posted by Bron
If you wished to be hard nosed ... we would have rallied after that short lapse. They scored the critical points after Wally was in trouble. If someone you were close to was in trouble, would you keep playing A GAME, or would you be more concerned with A LIFE. I know what my decision would be.

They ALL kept "playing a game" - are you saying the players did the wrong thing??

The "critical points" were scored in the first 20 mins of the last 1/4, that allowed NM to get so close. As for "they would have rallied after that short(??) lapse"... they didn't and they wouldn't have because they stopped putting in at 3/4 time.

[Damien]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I think some people are getting blinded by this tragedy in terms of understanding what happened in the game.

In the overall scheme of things, the game (any game) is irrelevant to a person's life.

Therefore if you don't want to discuss the game as it is too distressing that is completely understandable.

However, in terms of looking at what happened in the game and the fadeout in the last qtr, it is not clear that it had an impact on the players.

This comment is not made to "dis the players" or say they are meant to be "machines." It is simply trying to understand what happened to the team.

If the tragedy had happened at 3 qtr time, then a last quarter collapse would be completely understandable.

That the 'Roos were destroying the Swans in the first 9 minutes of the quarter and were comfortably looking like running over the top of us, which all happened beforehand, suggests that the Swans team had already collapsed.

Did all the players know half-way through the quarter? Well, we don't know at the moment. However, I am suggesting that it is unlikely. There were not a heap of interchanges made in the last ten minutes, new players are not going to chat to ones on the ground about what was unfolding at the bench, and the players on the ground are very unlikely to have understood what was happening over on the bench.

If they did know, which I think highly unlikely, then I think the last 10-15 minutes must have been very tough. However, from a football perspective we should never have been in that position.

I think, based on what we know now plus also what had happened early in the last quarter, the football result and the terrible death are completely separate incidents and should not be linked or discussed together.

Great post NMW.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Obviously this had no affect on the players during the game.

One wonders whether the over-excitment and anxious moments of the last qtr may actually have done it.

You complete moron. Always thought you were a nob, but this proves it. Commenting on something you know NOTHING about.

The guy died at the 15 minute mark of the last quarter. Club staff were howling with tears at the time. It happened all in front of the interchange bench. Every player knew, as it happened in front of them. Maybe they should have stopped the game.

I'm going to bed. Will only start crying again. One of the worst nights in my time following the Swans.

JF

PS:- Have a good look at yourself NMWBloods!

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
You complete moron. Always thought you were a nob, but this proves it. Commenting on something you know NOTHING about.

The guy died at the 15 minute mark of the last quarter. Club staff were howling with tears at the time. It happened all in front of the interchange bench. Every player knew, as it happened in front of them. Maybe they should have stopped the game.

I'm going to bed. Will only start crying again. One of the worst nights in my time following the Swans.

JF

PS:- Have a good look at yourself NMWBloods!

What the @@@@ are you on about?

My first comment (as I have explained) was that I believe the players would not have known about it hence not be affected by it in the last quarter. Given from what people have said he actually collapsed at the 15 minute mark and they were still working on him after the game how did every player on the field know about it. Given that it happened after the huge comeback how does it affect the players in the first half of the quarter?

The second comment refers to people with bad hearts getting too hyped up during football games.

Don't jump blindly on my comments and take your anger and pain out on me.

As for this comment - "You complete moron. Always thought you were a nob, but this proves it" don't bother replying to me any more then!

[anniswan]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
[B]

Don't jump blindly on my comments and take your anger and pain out on me.
B]

I think we are all feeling heartache in one way or another. Lets just forget the anger and remember Wally, forget about the result of the game and get on with life. Even though I didn't know Wally, I am sure he would'nt want us fighting each other.

[desredandwhite]

Everyone go to bed and sleep on it.

Thread closed.

[Bron]

Originally posted by anniswan
Nah Bron, our players are supposed to be machines, don't feel emotion just go our hard a do it no matter what. (that was tounge in cheek)

We lost, maybe we shouldn't have, but when one of your "football family" are in distress how can we predict how they will act, for all we know Roos (Paul) may have been too worried about Wally to be trying to coach. If that was the case then so be it, I would rather have a compassionate coach/team/support squad than people that would out the game before the person.

Agree totally.

In the morning after, I guess there's not much that they could have done about stopping the game. I just feel sad for all.