Team for 2005

[sharp9]

Mmmmm, I've been pondering.

Here is my 22 for 2005......I have named LRT at CHB, which is where is he is supposed to be playing. If not him, then whoever we recruit will be playing there. Goodes to the half back flank as a running player.


Backs ------------- Bevan - Schauble - C. Bolton

H. Backs ----------- Barry - Roberts-T - Goodes

Centre ------------- Ablett - N. Davis - Kennelly

H. Forward -------- O'Keefe - Hall - Saddington

Forwards -----Schneider - O'Loughlin - J. Bolton

Rucks------------------ Doyle - Kirk - Buchanan

Bench ------------- Meiklejohn, McVeigh, Fixter, James


This is based on all players being fit and Williams/Maxfield/Ball retiring. As I look at it Mathews and Fosdike are no longer required, though Fosdike could be a handy forward pocket.

Actually I am in love with this team except for having LRT at CHB and Doyle as number one ruckman. Other than that we will scare anyone. Perhaps the addition of Bradshaw and Charman would be all we need

[NMWBloods]

Needs a proper back-up ruckman.

I wonder if Bevan would make a better midfielder than Ablett. The latter is probably better in a defensive role.

Where's Crouch?

I think a spot could be found for Mathews, perhaps.

LRT is still a season or two away from being CHB I think.

[dread and might]

nice team. does Nick have the fitness/ application to play in the centre?

i have always liked the idea, long penetrating kick inside 50 and the potential to kick goals from there himself but have always had niggling doubts.

love the idea of kenelly out of the back 6, he is genuinely quick.

will fixter make the cut?

some questions to ponder....

[Barry Schneider]

I hoped at the start of the year that Kennelly would play wing.I am beginning to think this is less likely every game I watch.It seems he is being groomed to be a Leo Barry type backman who can take big or small forwards.He has played on a few tall players this year and he is getting better at contested marks.
I think we are a bit negative in our style.We have our running players in the backline while our midfield is more defensively oriented.Maybe that is just a reflection of our type of players and the impact of injuries on Davis and Schneider.
I would like to see Leo as a half back flanker and Kennelly pushed up to the wing with Schneider on the other wing, Buchanan as an in and under midfielder.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Backs ------------- Bevan - Schauble - C. Bolton

H. Backs ----------- Barry - Roberts-T - Goodes

Centre ------------- Schneider - Ablett - Kennelly

H. Forward -------- O'Keefe - Hall - Saddington

Forwards -----N. Davis - O'Loughlin - J. Bolton

Rucks------------------ Doyle - Kirk - Buchanan

Bench ------------- Crouch, McVeigh, Fixter, James

Don't see the need for MJ, as Goodes and LRT can play ruck especially if they change the ruck rules.

Tall back-line.Good depth in both talls and smalls.

[stellation]

Re: Team for 2005

What I like best about this team is

Originally posted by sharp9

Centre ------------- Ablett - N. Davis - Kennelly

every one of them a marking option... I really feel that this is an area that is really hurting us as far as moving the ball out of defence at the moment.

I would love to give JMcV a wing next year for the whole season, possibly would give it to him over Ablett.

[RogueSwan]

I don't see Nicks any where? Do you see him playing off the bench or not at all. I think he has stood up recently and is worthy of a spot, maybe even more so than Saddo?

[robbieando]

B: Leo Barry Andrew Schauble Craig Bolton
HB: Matthew Nicks Roberts-Thomson Ben Mathews
C: Tadhg Kennelly Adam Goodes Jarrad McVeigh
HF: Ryan O'Keefe Barry Hall Nick Davis
F: Amon Buchanan Michael O'Loughlin Adam Schneider
R: Stephen Doyle Brett Kirk Jude Bolton
Int: Andrew Eriksson Paul Williams Stuart Maxfield Jared Crouch
Emg: Luke Ablett Sean Dempster Heath James

[dawson]

What about the Schmidt's and Wiloughy's?

[Hitman44]

Doyle as first ruck....

WHAT THE ?

We need a ready made ruckmen to get us by until Erickson and perhaps MJ get ready. I dont think Doyle is an option for first ruck, ever !

I would prefer to recruit someone for ONE year, someone like Corey McKernan who is out of contract......

Again assuming Ball retires.

Thoughts ?

[dendol]

good fantasy team, but I think a few in the midfield will have to make room for Willo and Stuey who are more likely than not to plan on next year. I really dont see them starting on the bench or dropped to the reserves if they are still running around, and nor should they be.

And to name LRT at CHB at this stage is quite left-field since he hasnt played there at all this year - hasnt he be injured for most of the season? I think Nicks and Saddo will get considered first before LRT, based on what we've seen so far.

Really really need Ball to play on. Doyle as first ruck is the biggest worry. The ineffective, defensive midfield will be made even more so.

Schmidt and Willoughby will only get game time if they really show they are up for it during the preseason, much like Schneider and Bevan the last two seasons.

[Tilt]

Not even close Sharp.

Doyle as 1st ruck!!!!!!!!!! Hahaha give me a break.

Nick Davis will never play centre. Whats the point at having one of the most accurate goal kickers in the league in the centre???

LRT at centre half forward would result in massive scores being kicked against us each week - especially at the scg.

No Crouch?? You have to be kidding.

I suggest you have a good look at your 05 side and then at yourself.

[DST]

Like it or not, if Ball retires (and I think he has one more in him) then Doyle will be first ruck, as we simply do not have another option and a tall KP defender is needed before we trade for a ruckman.

Talk of Matthews not being in the team is total nonsense, just like with Saddington going down this year you don't notice how important they are until they are gone.

Here is a stab at my team, assuming Ball retires and we pick up Mark McVeigh and probably Ray Hall to provide some back-up down back and in the ruck.

FB: Mark McVeigh Andrew Schuable Ben Matthews

HB: Leo Barry Lewis Roberts-Thompson Craig Bolton

C: Tiger Kennelly Paul Williams Jarred Crouch

HF: Ryan O'Keefe Barry Hall Nick Davis

FF: Adam Scheinder Michael O'Loughlin Jason Saddington

Ruck: Stephen Doyle Adam Goodes Brett Kirk

Int: Jarred McVeigh Ray Hall Jude Bolton Paul Bevan

Senior players that will play a number of games in place of injured players or if form permits are:

Buchannen
Maxfield
Nicks
James
Fixter
Ablett
Sunquist
Powell

The following players should be pushing for 3 to 10 games form permitting:

Dempster
Malceski
Thelwis

The following players should be pushing for a couple of games mid to late season, form permitting:

Schmidtt
Willoughby
Erikson
Smokey

The addition of Mark McVeigh allows us to move Crouch to a wing with Kennelly to exploit their pace. Could also see Crouch, Mark McVeigh, Scheinder and Bevan play a four way rotation giving them some time on the ball, up forward and down back when match up's require.

Hall is a spare parts man, can be used as a third tall defender or a back up to Doyle at centre bounces when Doyle needs a break (something he did well at Richmond as a pinch hitting ruckman).

Goodes as ruck rover allows us to use his size, pace and stamania around the ground. Saddington up forward adds a further tall option for contested marks, it allows O'Keefe to push further up the field to gather kicks (and hopefully drift back through and kick goals) and Barry Hall to play a more traditional CHF on the larger grounds.

The shock is after looking at the above team I can't find a spot for Maxfield, which is real strange. While we have a couple of options as the next captain of the club, don't think any of them are ready so as captian we may see him play again next year even if their is not a definate place for him in the side.

Overall if we can keep our best team on the park and the youngster push up and demand a spot in the team, then we are again in the mix for a place somewhere between 3 to 8. After that it comes down to how well you play on the day and where!

DST

[sharp9]

Rats I knew I had tied myself up somewhere!!!!

Crouch. Bugger me!...I'll try again shall I?

Backs ------------- Bevan - Schauble - C. Bolton

H. Backs ----------- Barry - Roberts-T - Goodes

Centre ------------- Crouch - Davis - Kennelly

H. Forward -------- O'Keefe - Hall - Ablett

Forwards -----Schneider - O'Loughlin - Saddington

Rucks------------------ Doyle - Kirk - Buchanan

Bench ------------- J.Bolton, McVeigh, Fixter, James

Crouch to the centre, Ablett to half forward, Saddington to the pocket, Jude to the bench. Nicks on the bench instead of Fixter. MJ also out.

Now I'm happy (as long as LRT can play CHB) as we have Goodes, Hall, Saddington, LRT and Schauble as back-up ruckmen.

Interesting, Robbie, that you rate McVeigh in the starting line up and Ablett as an emergency. I'm taking the easy way out by not selecting our 3 veterans, BTW.

[sharp9]

Originally posted by Tilt
Not even close Sharp.

Doyle as 1st ruck!!!!!!!!!! Hahaha give me a break.

Nick Davis will never play centre. Whats the point at having one of the most accurate goal kickers in the league in the centre???

LRT at centre half forward would result in massive scores being kicked against us each week - especially at the scg.

No Crouch?? You have to be kidding.

I suggest you have a good look at your 05 side and then at yourself.

Doyle will be first Ruck if Ball retires. How much? No laughs there. The point of having Davis there (as you clearly cannot comprehend the obvious) is that WE DON'T HAVE ANY MIDFIELDERS WHO CAN KICK THE BLOODY BALL ACCURATELY. Try watching one of our games. Clearly we need to change something......what's your suggestion?

Crouch was an error, fixed earlier.

Davis has already played in the centre for periods (as well as for lengthy times in the 2's) his progression to first choice midfielder is logical......would you play a fully fit Voss in the forward pocket just because he is a good kick for goal. Gee....maybe Nick could, I dunno....SCORE SOME GOALS FROM THE MIDFIELD LIKE THE GOOD TEAMS DO!

Statements like "will never play centre," just mark you as ignorant. If you were a Richmond supporter you would have been saying...."Nathan Brown will never play centre."

Doyle out rucks his opponents on a reglar basis. The fact that we suck at clearances is not entirely his fault. He has dropped marks he should have taken...but he has marked and kicked well before and (I predict) you will be eating your words by the middle of next year.