We Get A Right To Vote

[Bron]

Originally posted by Bart
I think you'll find that JF and Bron ARE SSI, or at least are committee members.

It's more than the two of us. There is an active committee of about eight people, of which we are two. Committee meetings are open and a couple of other people often turn up.

Re the point about not promoting itself on RWO, the two are quite different things. There has been some reference on RWO to SSI events, activities and newsletters when these have occurred. Personally, I think that SSI should not be trying to "campaign" on here. There were some previous discussions. The Q&A document on the SSI website arose from RWO questions. I don't want to hear from different organisations pushing their barrow on here, and figure that's what most want too. If you are interested in SSI, subscribe to the list. If not, don't bother. The discussions on here re SSI are characterised by people with opposing views who aren't really interested in hearing an alternate position. Hence I don't post about it much, but I do try to answer specific questions.

Re makeup of the committee ... a couple of lawyers, three company directors of small/mid sized businesses - one at least with corporate experience prior, a state exec in a major corporate (I presume it's listed, but don't know off the top of my head) and a couple of people in employment. The business people typically sell to corporate.

THese are just a couple of quick answers, I've not spent a lot of time on them as I'm in a bit of a rush.

[Bart]

Originally posted by Bron
The discussions on here re SSI are characterised by people with opposing views who aren't really interested in hearing an alternate position.

But what IS that position ? That's all I ask. Why is what SSI are proposing a better solution ? If SSI sweep the boards and gain all 2 or 3 positions, can we expect to see unity of purpose at board level or 3 rabbits caught in the headlights ?

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Bart
But what IS that position ? That's all I ask. Why is what SSI are proposing a better solution ? If SSI sweep the boards and gain all 2 or 3 positions, can we expect to see unity of purpose at board level or 3 rabbits caught in the headlights ?

Or a better question to ask before the above

Do any of the current members of the SSI excutive have any interest in running for the Swans board if we get voting rights, either as an independant or as part of a SSI ticket. If so, than Bart's question can be answered.

Now I know what they have on their website, however I rather they came out here publically and stated their intentions rather than leaving it up to a very open comment on a website from over 2 years ago.

Personnally I'm not involved with SSI because of the statement on their website talking about getting SSI members on the board. While I like the idea of SSI as a body to express to the club the wants and needs of the members to the club, I don't think they should play any part in getting any sort of control at the club or as a group try and campaign for certain people in board elections. Leave that sort of thing to the individual.

If SSI was not to get involved in club politics and concerned itself with real issue facing club members, I would support them 100%.

[Tooth Fairy]

Originally posted by Bart

You also list your objectives as

- The appointment and/or election of SSI members who are Members of the Sydney Swans to the Board of the Sydney Swans

That point right there is already endorsing segregation amongst Sydney members. Good going SSI, lets get those factions happening early.

[Tooth Fairy]

Originally posted by robbieando

Personnally I'm not involved with SSI because of the statement on their website talking about getting SSI members on the board. While I like the idea of SSI as a body to express to the club the wants and needs of the members to the club, I don't think they should play any part in getting any sort of control at the club or as a group try and campaign for certain people in board elections. Leave that sort of thing to the individual.

If SSI was not to get involved in club politics and concerned itself with real issue facing club members, I would support them 100%.

Wholeheartedly agree.

[Bron]

The key focus has been to maintain pressure on the Club to bring about membership election of Board members.

There has been discussion as to whether there is a point in SSI existing after this has been achieved.

My PERSONAL opinion is that there is no need for SSI to exist after that point. This is not the SSI opinion, nor is it not the SSI opinion (if you see what I'm trying to say!).

Personally, I am likely to stand for the Board. I am likely to do so with a friend who has experience in AFL administration. We both have strong business qualifications and care about the success of the Club (on and off the field). I see this as a completely separate thing to being part of SSI and pushing for membership elections.

SSI's position in the past has been to say that it would endorse candidates, not field a ticket. This means that SSI would assess the credentials of any candidate and make a judgement and endorse them or not - it would not necessitate the candidates being SSI members. This has not been recently discussed, so the position may be different now.

A committee meeting is due soon, if you want to post a full set of questions here, I'll table these for a formal response ... what I've posted has been my interpretation and in some cases my personal opinion (which I've tried to identify as being different). The idea of a formal response is not to restrict discussion, just to make sure it is sanctioned by all committee members.

[Bart]

Originally posted by Bron
Personally, I am likely to stand for the Board. I am likely to do so with a friend who has experience in AFL administration. We both have strong business qualifications and care about the success of the Club (on and off the field). I see this as a completely separate thing to being part of SSI and pushing for membership elections.

Great. Groupies on the board. I suggest you change your avatar.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by robbieando
Or a better question to ask before the above

Do any of the current members of the SSI excutive have any interest in running for the Swans board if we get voting rights, either as an independant or as part of a SSI ticket. If so, than Bart's question can be answered.

Now I know what they have on their website, however I rather they came out here publically and stated their intentions rather than leaving it up to a very open comment on a website from over 2 years ago.

Personnally I'm not involved with SSI because of the statement on their website talking about getting SSI members on the board. While I like the idea of SSI as a body to express to the club the wants and needs of the members to the club, I don't think they should play any part in getting any sort of control at the club or as a group try and campaign for certain people in board elections. Leave that sort of thing to the individual.

If SSI was not to get involved in club politics and concerned itself with real issue facing club members, I would support them 100%.

Personally I think this is an issue that we
should discuss at our next SSI
meeting. I was always under the impression that
SSI's sole function was to
bring about member voting. I think once that had
come into fruition, there
would be little purpose in having it continue to
exist.

To be brutally honest, I do not know whether
anyone from SSI would be
nominating from the board. If anyone on SSI's
committee DID have this wish,
it would be news to me. Whatever the situation,
any prospective person would
have to undergo the same scrutiny as any other
prospective candidates for
the position.

Correct me if I'm wrong Bron, but all of the SSI
committee would need to
second any particular movements to do so, which
would pretty much knock any
individual going on the board as a representative
of anything SSI in any
case. As this is not one of the objectives of
SSI. Nor it should be.

I repeat, once we get member voting rights SSI
should cease to exist as an
entity. As it will have acheived its aim.

And no, I have NO INTEREST in going anywhere any sort of board that isn't a dart board. So lay off for 30 seconds.

JF

[tez]

Bron and JF have for some time been identified as being SSI
committee members, on this board.

I am also a SSI committee member, and make my personal
feelings and immediate intentions known.

SSI committee members are not hell bent on being elected
to the board of our Club


There are committee members of SSI, who in my opinion
possess, both the qualification and experiece of serving in
such an important role.

Personally, I have no immediate intention of becoming a
candidate. I say "immediate" because who knows what may
happen in 3+ years time. But, more than likely will never happen. I will continue to support our Club in what ever capacity
I can.

I will ACTIVELY SUPPORT any candidate, whether they be an
SSI committee member/SSI member/Non SSI member, who I
consider to be the best qualified to act in the BEST INTERESTS of
our club.

[Maestro2]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
To be brutally honest, I do not know whether
anyone from SSI would be
nominating from the board. If anyone on SSI's
committee DID have this wish,
it would be news to me. Whatever the situation,
any prospective person would
have to undergo the same scrutiny as any other
prospective candidates for
the position.

JF

This is what I feared. Scrutiny = Politics, politics and damn politics. Frankly, let's just watch the football and support our team as passionately as possible, without trying to become world leaders pretend.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by Maestro2
This is what I feared. Scrutiny = Politics, politics and damn politics. Frankly, let's just watch the football and support our team as passionately as possible, without trying to become world leaders pretend.

Nobody is forcing you to do anything you don't want to do. I just don't want the club treating us long-suffering members like fools by disclosing information from us. I just want accountability, that's all.

I have no vested interests at all. I'm just a fat bloke who bangs a drum at the footy and loves his club.

You can go on just watching the football. I'll be continuing to do the same mate.

JF

[Rod_]

Well done to all those involved in gettng this opportunity - now what? We need to elect / select people that can not only make a difference and have valued input!

Travel well

Rod_