Shane Crawford

[chammond]

Bit surprised you see Dyson and Kickett as only "call it square".

In both cases they were recruited just to play two or three seasons, and they were both outstanding for the short time they were with Swans.

Also Hardie and Krakouer were never going to do anything for the Swans. In those days such speculative picks weren't uncommon . . . they didn't really cost anything . . . and weren't really on the "failed" side of the ledger.

Just a matter of definitions, I guess?

[NMWBloods]

I would have thought Dyson and Kickett were very good for us.

I also though Osborne was okay for us.

Daffy and Tingay probably shouldn't be included in any list like that.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by Captain
I have heard from several people in the footy industry that Shane has always been keen to come and play with the Swans.

Then why didn't he come north before we traded his brother to Hawthorn?

Originally posted by Captain
IWhilst I don't think we should go after him

Agreed, a 30 year old key big man would be ridiculous, a 30 year old injury prone on baller with acting ambitions would be a tradgedy!

[SimonH]

A fair point re Dyson and Kickett. While neither of them were even close to being champions, you don't need to set the world on fire to fulfil the brief that you came to the club with.

Looking through the draft list, it really struck me how many ancient (by today's standards) players were regularly picked up in the past. How times have changed.

Today's trivia fact: John Stevens was 25 (and pushing close to 26) when he played his first AFL game!

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by SimonH
A fair point re Dyson and Kickett. While neither of them were even close to being champions, you don't need to set the world on fire to fulfil the brief that you came to the club with.

I think Dyson may be the most apt comparison for Crawford. One season fulltime, one season part-time then adios ~ due to a "totally unexpected" development of his outside business interests.

I'm it's good that his post football career took off, but lets not fall for the same thing twice.

[Old Royboy]

An AFL team finished around 4th in 2002 and decided that to go the last step all they needed was a quality dominant forward. They went and got him, well he was 30-31 had a big ego & a few past injury problems and cost a trade bundle, but what the heck ? go for it..

Result after 2 years?

No premiership, dominant forward has retired mid contract, club has missed the five, coach is sacked, and dominant forward's original club used part of the trade deal to select a gun recruit with superstar written all over him

Do we want Crawford? You have got to be kidding.

[NMWBloods]

To be fair, Adelaide had an ageing list and an unexciting coach, and ran into the Lions at the Gabba! Also, that's what happens when you give up a no.2 draft pick and I don't think anyone has suggested anything remotely like that.

[originalswan]

I think we should go all out and go for broke for 2005.

Lets get Crawford and also...Nathan Buckley, Anthony Koutoufides, Mark Mercuri, Joe Misiti, Anthony Stevens, Glen Archer, Wayne Campbell, Robert Harvey, Chris Grant, Rohan Smith and Chris Grant.

Seriously...Shane Crawford could be a bonus if AND ONLY IF we give bugger all to Hawthorn (perhaps they have salary cap pressures - I hear that Nick Holland is on a fair bit as well) ie.Older player or lower draft pick.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by originalswan
Seriously...Shane Crawford could be a bonus if AND ONLY IF we give bugger all to Hawthorn.

I think that criteria is uppermost for pretty much everyone who has some thought of getting Crawford.

[originalswan]

See I really do like Chris Grant - mentioned him twice (maybe cover both ends)

[Ruda Wakening]

Originally posted by pillowtalk
Loose lips sink ships ...

I'm getting to grips with what you said ... No it's not in my head
I can't awaken the dead day after day...Why don't we talk about it?Why do you always doubt that there can be a better way?
It doesn't make me wanna stay

Why don't we break up?

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by SimonH
Failures: Rudi Mandemaker* There's a slight typo on RWO where they call him 'Mandemacher'; and sure, he wasn't that old in 1988, but big Rudi was over the hump after about the 2nd season he played footy. I cacked myself when I found out that Sydney recruited him!

What is it with South Australia and fat slob full forwards?

"One Grenville Dietrich, there's only...."

JF

[BAM_BAM]

Originally posted by Ruda Wakening
I'm getting to grips with what you said ... No it's not in my head
I can't awaken the dead day after day...Why don't we talk about it?Why do you always doubt that there can be a better way?
It doesn't make me wanna stay

Why don't we break up?

Ruda, what are you talking about? Is this a conversation that should end with,

wrapped in plastic it's fantastic.

I'm confused?

[Ruda Wakening]

LOL!

Something pillow said reminded me of that Robbie Williams song. Whats it called, Sexed Up?

Theres a great line in it. "I've got my eyes shut praying they won't stray"

[Schneiderman]

I say that every three years you need to take a punt. Sure you dont want it to cost your arms and a leg, but without risk there is no reward.

BTW, if we take a fresh untried player instead, whose to say he will be more successful?? Sure he may be a ten year gun player, but then we haven't found one of those yet.

I say give him a run. You win some and you lose some... Willo showed us that on the weekend