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  • Mattyt
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2004
    • 56

    Thoughts

    Haven't actually seen the game, but looking backl on 2004, I was happy enough with it.

    Injuries took their toll, and in the end we lost to a talented opposition with absoloutely everything to lose. Bad luck boys, but I have a sneaking suspicion we'll be right in the mix next year.

    We did well with the cards that were dealt to us throughout this year, so all I have to say is roll on (an injury free) 2005!
  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #2
    I don't think injuries are a great excuse for this year. As noted last week, we had one of the more settled 22 this season.

    Overall, the season was okay, but the lack of consistency worried me a lot. A number of games, and particularly the St Kilda and Essendon ones at the MCG, just showed yet again our midfield is too weak.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • swans_premiers
      On the Rookie List
      • Feb 2003
      • 1101

      #3
      Doesn't hurt asmuch as last year, would have liked to have seen us win a final at the MCG though.
      Adam Goodes: Rising Star 99, Brownlow 2003, 2006
      Swans Premiers 1909, 1918,1933,2005, 2012

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      • caj23
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2003
        • 2462

        #4
        i agree with you both, it would have been a really good season if we'd managed to get through to another premiminary final, as it stands i'm not devastated (although disappointed) that we only made it through to the 2nd week of the finals

        i guess the question that tonight throws up is where are we going to get the improvement from to take the next step?

        Ideally a few of our younger players will take the next step up to cover some of our deficiencies (LRT to CHB, Willoby or Schmidt to get into midfield).

        Maybe a few clever trades although i can't see us involved in any blockbusters at this stage

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        • Damien
          Living in 2005
          • Jan 2003
          • 3713

          #5
          Hurts me more than last year.

          We are at real risk of falling behind some teams next year, Geelong and St.Kilda are going to take the next step, and Brisbane and Port will not be going anywhere....

          Thought a window had opened for us...how wrong I was to dream.

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          • Mattyt
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2004
            • 56

            #6
            I'm not using injuries as an excuse, I just think a fully fit Goodes would really define this side. I just think the Swans are really capable of big things next year, especially with a fully fit Schneider getting more of a run in the midfield.

            I was totally and absoloutely gutted last year, really, really, gutted. But this year...Not quite the same. I think it's a tribute to the boys that they held their heads high after the loss of Wally, and went on to win 4 straight.

            I'm predicting right here and now big, big things for next year.

            Goodes for Brownlow, I don't care how bad his form was this year.

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            • swans_premiers
              On the Rookie List
              • Feb 2003
              • 1101

              #7
              Originally posted by Damien
              Hurts me more than last year.

              We are at real risk of falling behind some teams next year, Geelong and St.Kilda are going to take the next step, and Brisbane and Port will not be going anywhere....

              Thought a window had opened for us...how wrong I was to dream.
              Surely you would think Brisbane and Port would have to start to slip.
              Adam Goodes: Rising Star 99, Brownlow 2003, 2006
              Swans Premiers 1909, 1918,1933,2005, 2012

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              • Damien
                Living in 2005
                • Jan 2003
                • 3713

                #8
                Originally posted by swans_premiers
                Surely you would think Brisbane and Port would have to start to slip.
                On what basis? Brisbane may lose Lynch? who else is going?

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #9
                  No reason why Brisbane will slip.

                  Look at the ages of some of their key players next year:

                  Akermanis 28
                  Black 26
                  Bradshaw 26
                  Brown 23
                  Charman 23
                  Johnson 29
                  Lappin 29
                  Leppitsch 29
                  Keating 29
                  Michael 28
                  Notting 26
                  Power 25
                  Scotts 29
                  Voss 30

                  They still have a couple of years left!!
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • Nico
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11348

                    #10
                    Roos said after the game that Williams, Mathews, Maxfield and O'loughlin were virtually out of the contest with injury by Q time.
                    Said as the game went on it became harder with rotations and with a lack of midfield options was hard to keep tabs on their midfield.

                    He did say that under the conditions we tried to overuse the footy too much, particularly in the 2nd Q.

                    We had some dumb players out there tonight. eg Ablett is clear but insists on going sideways to Kirk, who should never have called for it as he had 2 on his tail - holding the ball. Turnover for a goal.

                    Kennelly, again clear but insisted on yet another handpass, turnover for a goal.

                    Both these happened in a space of 5 minutes when we could have had it one out with Hall or Micky in or near the square both times. Dumb footy. The writing was on the wall.
                    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                    • swans_premiers
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 1101

                      #11
                      Voss is only getting older, as is pike. How old are the Scott brothers? Leppistch? Where will they get their improvement from? I'd say they will stay around the same level with other teams improving. Port if they lost next week i would be very surprised to see them up there again next year. Much like collingwood losing 2 grandfinals in a row I don't think Port could get up there if it happened again.
                      Adam Goodes: Rising Star 99, Brownlow 2003, 2006
                      Swans Premiers 1909, 1918,1933,2005, 2012

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                      • Mike_B
                        Peyow Peyow
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 6267

                        #12
                        The only one who is definitely going is McRae, otherwise they could have a very similar lineup again in 2005.

                        I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                        If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                        • swans_premiers
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1101

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NMWBloods
                          No reason why Brisbane will slip.

                          Look at the ages of some of their key players next year:

                          Akermanis 28
                          Black 26
                          Bradshaw 26
                          Brown 23
                          Charman 23
                          Johnson 29
                          Lappin 29
                          Leppitsch 29
                          Keating 29
                          Michael 28
                          Notting 26
                          Power 25
                          Scotts 29
                          Voss 30

                          They still have a couple of years left!!
                          How old are Hart and Pike too?
                          Adam Goodes: Rising Star 99, Brownlow 2003, 2006
                          Swans Premiers 1909, 1918,1933,2005, 2012

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                          • caj23
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2462

                            #14
                            whilst i don't see them dropping off in any major fashion (they may even win again), the core of their team will be 28 years and over. These players will certainly not improve and some may be in decline (Voss an obvious example). Furthermore they are more likely to be prone to wear and tear injuries at that age

                            So if we can improve next year we can close the gap on them

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #15
                              I don't think Brisbane will improve, but I don't think they'll be slipping just yet. Certainly not noticeably so anyway.

                              Pike and Hart are over 30, and may slow down, but still have some impact. They also have a number of younger players, like Brennan, Hadley and McLaren, who will get better with experiene.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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