What type of player are we lacking??

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  • Wazza
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2004
    • 805

    What type of player are we lacking??

    Roos after the Match said we need a ruckman and a midfielder, I pretty suprised that he didnt mention a key defender!!

    I agree with the Midfielder but whoever this is should not follow our general midfield recruiting i.e is not allowed to be over 6ft with a strong body.

    But surely we need a Key defender more than any other type of player. - Schauble was smashed last night didnt want to know about it a couple of times with heartless attempts at tackling but who is going to replace him?

    Leo Barry should be running of half back not sitting back in the goalsquare on the no1 or 2 forward and Craig Bolton has played some of his best footy this year when given a running role.

    Anyway looking forward to the draft and next year but the swannies currently have that Collingwood look about them - had a couple of good years with a pretty average list but probably dont have the players in current squad to take us any further.

    Cheers

    Waz
  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #2
    I think we need two midfielders:

    - in-and-under type who can get the ball out (eg: Sam Mitchell type)

    - a dynamic, running, creative midfielder (eg: Chris Judd, Nick Dal Santo type).

    Hopefully the latter can also do clearances too (like Simon Black).

    We also need a CHB.

    As for a ruck, it would be nice, but not at the top of priorities IMHO. I think Doyle can do centre square and Goodes around the ground. Of course it would be nice to have a great ruckman, but midfielders and CHB are more important.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • Snowy
      On the Rookie List
      • Jun 2003
      • 1244

      #3
      a couple of midfielders with pace who can hit targets. You will find then the defence will not be under so much pressure, the midfield ranks along Hawthorn's and Richmond's as the worst.
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      • Mike_B
        Peyow Peyow
        • Jan 2003
        • 6267

        #4
        Its often said that when our midfield breaks even, our defence is fine - you can see this from many performances through the year. While it would be great to pick up a KP defender, the first priority is a midfielder, we are much weaker there than in defence and as I said, our defence has shown it can hold its own provided the midfield put enough pressure on the opposition to ensure that they don't have a wide open forward line to work into.

        I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

        If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11339

          #5
          Roos mentioned both Saddington and LRT as adding some height to the team, so sounds like CHB is what LRT is earmarked for, and Saddo won't be traded.

          Bad luck for the " Saddo to be traded" clique.
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          • Nico
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            • Jan 2003
            • 11339

            #6
            Originally posted by Mike_B
            Its often said that when our midfield breaks even, our defence is fine - you can see this from many performances through the year. While it would be great to pick up a KP defender, the first priority is a midfielder, we are much weaker there than in defence and as I said, our defence has shown it can hold its own provided the midfield put enough pressure on the opposition to ensure that they don't have a wide open forward line to work into.
            No doubt Mike. You can have match day injuries, but it was no excuse for the belting we got at centre breaks and clearances.
            Del Sato is a brilliant foot ball who's evasive skills are the best I have seen all year. His reaction time is zero and always seems to have a week to dispose of it in heavy traffic.

            That's what we need.
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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #7
              Originally posted by Mike_B
              Its often said that when our midfield breaks even, our defence is fine - you can see this from many performances through the year. While it would be great to pick up a KP defender, the first priority is a midfielder, we are much weaker there than in defence and as I said, our defence has shown it can hold its own provided the midfield put enough pressure on the opposition to ensure that they don't have a wide open forward line to work into.
              That's right. I think our defence is okay as long as it's not under too much pressure (which happens when our midfield is destroyed). Of course we could do with a great CHB type, but with a finite number of options, I would prefer to bulk up our midfield.
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • Donners
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2003
                • 1061

                #8
                - A class midfielder. We have too many of the defensive variety, often forced into that role simply because their disposal skills aren't up to scratch.

                - A captain. Maxfield must drop it at the end of this season.

                - A utility of the Leppitsch variety.

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                • Wil
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 619

                  #9
                  We need an attacking Midfielder. Paul Williams, 10 years younger. But we are a midfielder heavy team, if we need to get another midfielder through trading surely this is Roos fault for poor personnel managment. However, injurys havent helped. If it wasn't for injuries Schneider, Davis or Buchanan would of had one whole full year playing in the midfield and perhaps that would of solved our problems tonight. Ablett's learning curve seems to have taken a dive, hope he can get some confidence up in the pre-season.

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                  • Nico
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11339

                    #10
                    Ablett is just too slow for midfielder. A tagging is the best he hope for. Doesn't give anything as far as creativiyt goes. Poor decision maker, and for someone as slow as him finesses too often and gets caught. One of those players who must dispose of the ball with first option.
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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #11
                      We have a team of tagging, defensive midfielders, or blue-collar, unexciting midfielders. Lacks attack and drive, and is the worst midfield in the competition in terms of offensive ability.
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #12
                        To get what we need I would trade everyone single on of our draft picks plus a couple of mid-ranked players.

                        Hopefully that might get us a couple of really good midfielders and a CHB type, aged around 24-25 yo.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • ugg
                          Can you feel it?
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15970

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Donners
                          - A class midfielder. We have too many of the defensive variety, often forced into that role simply because their disposal skills aren't up to scratch.
                          Yes definitely, but what will be available?


                          - A captain. Maxfield must drop it at the end of this season.
                          He seems to have the players respect and admiration, I'll be happy for him to keep going as I can't see anyone really suited to the role at present


                          - A utility of the Leppitsch variety.
                          Surely Goodes fits this role perfectly. Anyway Leppa is definitely a CHB first and foremost.
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                          • swan_song
                            I'm SO over the swans!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 981

                            #14
                            quote NMWBloods:
                            I think we need two midfielders:

                            - in-and-under type who can get the ball out (eg: Sam Mitchell type)

                            - a dynamic, running, creative midfielder (eg: Chris Judd, Nick Dal Santo type).

                            Hopefully the latter can also do clearances too (like Simon Black).

                            We also need a CHB.

                            As for a ruck, it would be nice, but not at the top of priorities IMHO.

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                            Totally agree...this is what I've been saying ever since Dunks neared retirement (for a good strong backman)....and since Cressa neared his use-by date (for the midfielders)... It is even more critical now, given that both Stewie and Willo can't have that many years left...

                            The good news is, IMO, that Roosie has said the days of picking up young (and perhaps not-that-good) players from the draft (the penalty for finishing middle of the table) are over for a while, and we will be concentrating on experienced players who may become available... whether or not the ones we need will be available is another matter....
                            "Davis...Davis has kicked 2...he snaps from 40...dont tell me, dont tell me, hes kicked a goal....unbelievable stuff from Nick Davis, can you believe this, he's kicked 3 final quarter goals and Swans are within 3 points..."

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                            • swansrule100
                              The quarterback
                              • May 2004
                              • 4538

                              #15
                              Forward Line = Fine

                              Midfield= need at least 1 maybe 2 people... 1 like williams was when we first got him (preferably younger) and another someone to lead the midifield and step up when needed (ie a voss, black type ... tho obviously hard to find that good)

                              backline:- most urgent .... CHB wether saddo or lrt can do it or not is up for debate so recruit one even if hes young .!

                              the backline for 2005 would roughly be

                              B: Mathews, Schuable, C Bolton
                              Hb: Barry, NEW CHB, Saddington/kennelly/maxfield?

                              i like kennelly off half back personally! and nicks up forward


                              RUCK: ball is playing on... good... more time to doyle and a young ruck ... mj is rubbish
                              Theres not much left to say

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