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  • Go Swannies
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    bad bad time to come home!

    The last time I was able to regularly access RWO was in mid July before I left for the Arctic. I managed to keep up with what was happening with the team via Iridium phone while standing outside on a frozen ship's deck, sometimes with snow falling, at other times with the aurora borealis putting on a light show overhead.

    Then the Swans' season all came undone in the St Kilda final. I was showing people around the small village of Scoresbysund Fiord on Greenland's east coast. I left the group regularly to check out AFL.com.au at the tiny tourist ofice (with dial-up internet) and saw the finals slipping out of our grip. Oh well, we achieved about the same as we did last year - without the element of surprise this year, a more multifaceted gameplan and a massive injury list for most of the season certainly denying us a top four finish. Next year, I hope. At least the Swans under Paul Roos are regarded as a finals fixture - a long way from when i started following the team.

    On a very few occasions I had a quick look into RWO from expensive internet cafes in Iceland and Oslo. I didn't stay for long as, no matter how the team was going, it seemed remarkably negative.

    But now I'm home and back on broadband. I've had a look at RWO to see what the issues were. And I'm sorry I did. Especially during the trade period. If I ignore the pathetic sniping from one member to the next I still find that most supporters appear to hate the team, the players and the coaching staff. It appears that Paul Roos has abandoned his youth policy by taking a young ruckman who has played the game already! And that player is crap - all the Dees supporters now say that, I hear. And the only reason we couldn't trade away any of the Swans players who have flourished under Roos was because no other team would want them. We're just second (or third) rate - which doesn't say much about the 12 teams that finished behind us.

    Through a RWO friend who bought me a ticket while I was away I was able to go to the Club Champion dinner and that was inspirational. It appears that the team like each other and the staff and are proud to be Swans. Bazza even cried for goodness sake! The 800 or so people there on the night were equally deluded that we were working towards a common goal. And there was no doubt shown by any of the speakers who told us that the club would not be complete until it held a modern premiership flag. Only a very few of RWO seem to share the optimism that this goal is within reach.

    From the perspective of a reborn outsider, I seem to have come back to Tiger-striped Swans supporters whose support for the club only extends as far as the team's last win. It's kinda sad really.
  • DST
    The voice of reason!
    • Jan 2003
    • 2705

    #2
    Re: bad bad time to come home!

    Originally posted by Go Swannies
    The last time I was able to regularly access RWO was in mid July before I left for the Arctic. I managed to keep up with what was happening with the team via Iridium phone while standing outside on a frozen ship's deck, sometimes with snow falling, at other times with the aurora borealis putting on a light show overhead.

    Then the Swans' season all came undone in the St Kilda final. I was showing people around the small village of Scoresbysund Fiord on Greenland's east coast. I left the group regularly to check out AFL.com.au at the tiny tourist ofice (with dial-up internet) and saw the finals slipping out of our grip. Oh well, we achieved about the same as we did last year - without the element of surprise this year, a more multifaceted gameplan and a massive injury list for most of the season certainly denying us a top four finish. Next year, I hope. At least the Swans under Paul Roos are regarded as a finals fixture - a long way from when i started following the team.

    On a very few occasions I had a quick look into RWO from expensive internet cafes in Iceland and Oslo. I didn't stay for long as, no matter how the team was going, it seemed remarkably negative.

    But now I'm home and back on broadband. I've had a look at RWO to see what the issues were. And I'm sorry I did. Especially during the trade period. If I ignore the pathetic sniping from one member to the next I still find that most supporters appear to hate the team, the players and the coaching staff. It appears that Paul Roos has abandoned his youth policy by taking a young ruckman who has played the game already! And that player is crap - all the Dees supporters now say that, I hear. And the only reason we couldn't trade away any of the Swans players who have flourished under Roos was because no other team would want them. We're just second (or third) rate - which doesn't say much about the 12 teams that finished behind us.

    Through a RWO friend who bought me a ticket while I was away I was able to go to the Club Champion dinner and that was inspirational. It appears that the team like each other and the staff and are proud to be Swans. Bazza even cried for goodness sake! The 800 or so people there on the night were equally deluded that we were working towards a common goal. And there was no doubt shown by any of the speakers who told us that the club would not be complete until it held a modern premiership flag. Only a very few of RWO seem to share the optimism that this goal is within reach.

    From the perspective of a reborn outsider, I seem to have come back to Tiger-striped Swans supporters whose support for the club only extends as far as the team's last win. It's kinda sad really.
    I could have not said it better myself, unfortunately football has become for some on this board a negative in their lives rather than what it is, a game played for enjoyment and entertainment.

    DST
    "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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    • NMWBloods
      Taking Refuge!!
      • Jan 2003
      • 15819

      #3
      This is a bit all over the place, however I don't injuries are a good enough excuse for our finals performance and I'm not sure exactly how our current list is going to take the quantum leap from where it is to win a flag without some injection of class.

      Why people thought recruiting Jolly was somehow an affront to the youth policy I'm not sure.

      I think a lot of other teams don't want our players because most of them do well in our particular team environment, rather than being must-have players for other clubs.

      Thinking most people hate the players, coaching staff and club is a fair bit off the mark.

      I follow football for entertainment and enjoyment, but I follow the the Swans for wins.


      BTW - I like your photos. I have one of a boat up in the Arctic heading toward some ice flows on my desktop at home.
      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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      • Bas
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 4457

        #4
        Re: bad bad time to come home!

        Originally posted by Go Swannies


        It appears that Paul Roos has abandoned his youth policy by taking a young ruckman who has played the game already! And that player is crap - all the Dees supporters now say that, I hear. And the only reason we couldn't trade away any of the Swans players who have flourished under Roos was because no other team would want them. We're just second (or third) rate - which doesn't say much about the 12 teams that finished behind us.
        Very harsh and unreasonable comments about Jolly. You seem to know about as much about football as the negative people you are complaining about.

        In 2003, Jolly was very impressive and I remember Walls and Sheahan were saying that the demons should trade White because they had a replacement in Jolly.

        He's 22. What are you on about???? Perhaps you're 14 and at 22 he seems old.

        And with regard to your comments about no one wanting Swans players. If the Swans put Goodes, Kennelly, Barry, Bolten etc up for trade, no one would want them right?

        If you think we're second or third rate, I suggest you follow another team or code and keep your deluded negative comments to yourself.
        In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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        • Triple B
          Formerly 'BBB'
          • Feb 2003
          • 6999

          #5


          The replies and subsequent squirming should be fun to watch.

          'All stations stand by'
          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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          • Sanecow
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Mar 2003
            • 6917

            #6
            Bas - I think you missed the point. These observations were "Go Swannies" summary of recent RWO threads.

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            • j s
              Think positive!
              • Jan 2003
              • 3303

              #7
              Well said GS!!

              The negativity has been the main reason for my reduced presence on the forums this year.....and virtual disappearance since the season ended.

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #8
                Nothing wrong with questioning the performance of the team and what is happening to generate some debate. Certainly better than blindly accepting that everything is fine and always being optimistic that things will work out well in the end.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • Charlie
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4101

                  #9
                  Welcome back, mate... how's the sunburn?
                  We hate Anthony Rocca
                  We hate Shannon Grant too
                  We hate scumbag Gaspar
                  But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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                  • Bas
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4457

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sanecow
                    Bas - I think you missed the point. These observations were "Go Swannies" summary of recent RWO threads.
                    Could well have. It's been a very long week. No nastiness intended to GS. I agree with the comments about negativity.
                    I always think that if anyone is so negative and critical about a team then it's about time they followed another team.

                    It very much seems "Mondays experts" has well and truly been replaced by "Website experts".

                    Very much excited about Jolly joining the list. Can hear Goodesy's knees cheering about it as well.
                    In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                    • Triple B
                      Formerly 'BBB'
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 6999

                      #11
                      Uncomfortable squirming and thinly veiled retraction noted.

                      'All stations, Code Green'
                      Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                      • ROK Lobster
                        RWO Life Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 8658

                        #12
                        I'm glad something is being done to stop the negative threads. This one reeks of positivity...

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BBB
                          Uncomfortable squirming and thinly veiled retraction noted.
                          This was directed at...?
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11339

                            #14
                            Re: Re: bad bad time to come home!

                            Originally posted by Bas
                            Very harsh and unreasonable comments about Jolly. You seem to know about as much about football as the negative people you are complaining about.

                            In 2003, Jolly was very impressive and I remember Walls and Sheahan were saying that the demons should trade White because they had a replacement in Jolly.

                            He's 22. What are you on about???? Perhaps you're 14 and at 22 he seems old.

                            And with regard to your comments about no one wanting Swans players. If the Swans put Goodes, Kennelly, Barry, Bolten etc up for trade, no one would want them right?

                            If you think we're second or third rate, I suggest you follow another team or code and keep your deluded negative comments to yourself.
                            Precisely Bas. You can only trade if a club is willing to trade. All the talk here about who was going to be up as trade bait etc. didn't materialise because they weren't ever considered as tradeable by the club. Rest easy Saddo.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • Triple B
                              Formerly 'BBB'
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6999

                              #15
                              'All stations standby again'

                              Somebody else has completely missed the point of GS's post.
                              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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