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Originally posted by TheMase If Goodes is actually fit ... then let the opposition worry about him.
His opponent might get the ball at first, but I guarentee they will have someone on him very quickly if he starts dominating.
I don't think Goodes will have to worry about his man too often if we are playing him as our offensive midfielder .... He will do enough damage for the opposition coach to have to make a change ....
Absolutely right - let him run free.
He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)
Originally posted by dimelb Absolutely right - let him run free.
Makes a lot of sense . . . let Goodes roam and be the second "go-to" after BBB, and challenge the opposition to try to match up on him. If he looks like he's being tagged too tight, throw him into the ruck for five or ten minutes.
If his knees come good, he could create havoc in 2005!
My view of how the rucks should work is that one ruckman takes the centre bounce and then moves down back to assist the defence, and takes the ruck in the defensive 50. The other ruckman either plays up forward as another marking option and also takes the ruck in the forward 50, or sits on the bench.
Goodes plays ruck rover, so is in the centre at the bounce, takes the ruck duels around the wings and centre during play, and also has a licence to run to wherever he chooses.
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."
While Adam Goodes was probably the most mobile ruckman of all time . . . . . you gotta admit most of them aren't exactly Speedy Gonzales.
My feeling is that hes' gonna look far slower when compared to those grass burners that inhabit the centre square.
So I doubt that that's the place for him.
On the other hand his kicking for goal [so far] makes me think he should be excluded from the forward line.
And his inate loosness makes me doubt he will ever make a good defender.
So as we now have too many ruckmen for him to play as an around the ground ruckman then perhaps the wing is the place for him.
Originally posted by NMWBloods My view of how the rucks should work is that one ruckman takes the centre bounce and then moves down back to assist the defence, and takes the ruck in the defensive 50. The other ruckman either plays up forward as another marking option and also takes the ruck in the forward 50, or sits on the bench.
Goodes plays ruck rover, so is in the centre at the bounce, takes the ruck duels around the wings and centre during play, and also has a licence to run to wherever he chooses.
that sounds like it could be the best way to go. It goes a little ways into fixing our height problem down back as well. I really like the idea of Ball playing a bigger role in locking down any opposition ruckmen who moves forward.
I think Goodes' role should be based on what player is marking him. If they put a shorter run-with player on him, push him forward. If they switch a tall defender on him up forward, push back into the midfield. If they match up with a ruckman (when he rucks around the ground), let him do what he did in 2003.
I really hope to see him back to his Brownlow best in 2005.
his defence isnt as good as his attack and he is wasted in a stopping role.. id almost instruct to run the middle of the ground stay out of the 50m arcs
It will be interesting to see what Roosy and Goodes come up with. I'd like to see him tried as a centre-square midfielder (if only to end the speculation).
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