George Stone

[liz]

The Age reports that George Stone has just left the Hawks "to seek new opportunities elsewhere". It's probably not surprising, given the turmoil at Hawthorn recently.

Wouldn't mind seeing him back at the Swans, particularly in a youth development role. His success in developing Kennelly to a senior-ready footballer in such a short time was admirable and I was sorry when he left.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/11/03/1099362219452.html

[Damien]

I would have said the Bulldogs and Rocket - but given the financial situation I would doubt there is room.

I would like to see him back here also - however seeing all future opportunities would be in Melbourne, I doubt he would uproot his family again.

[Ryan Bomford]

With Stone gone is anybody left? It appears as if the 'United Front" at Glenferrie still has a few major holes. Funny timing though. Must have started the pre-season and not liked what he saw.

[sharp9]

From assistants to recruiting to physio the only one left is John Hooks, football manager.

[Ryan Bomford]

Yeah it's getting so quiet down in the land of the Brown and Gold that you can hear a 'Stone' drop.

[chammond]

Re: George Stone

Originally posted by liz
The Age reports that George Stone has just left the Hawks "to seek new opportunities elsewhere". It's probably not surprising, given the turmoil at Hawthorn recently.

Clarkson's first big mistake, I think . . . . thrown out the baby with the bathwater.

If I was Roos, I'd be on the phone to George first thing!

[Damien]

Re: Re: George Stone

Originally posted by chammond
Clarkson's first big mistake, I think . . . . thrown out the baby with the bathwater.

Time will tell! Could be the best move ever. Who knows.

Not as if Hawthorn set the world on fire while Stone was there remember.

[swansrule100]

exactly

clarkson needs to clean the place out

[Captain]

They can throw out all the coaches in the world, it still doesn't hide the fact that they have massive duds on their list such as Holland and Barker.

[Damien]

Originally posted by Captain
They can throw out all the coaches in the world, it still doesn't hide the fact that they have massive duds on their list such as Holland and Barker.

LOL true, but they have to start somewhere.

[Nico]

My memory is a bit hazy on his time at Sydney under R.Eade. But after 96 I thought that perhaps the development of youth was one of our weaker points, given that blokes like Bolton J and Fosdike didn't really show a lot until Roos took over.

Of the 2004 list you can cut out Hall, Ball, C.Bolton, Davis, Dempster, M.Davis, Erickson, Malceski, Maxfield, McVeigh, Meikeljohn, Powell, Lrt, Schauble, Schmidt, Schneider, Thewlis, Warfe, Williams, Willoughby, Bevan as players not there or imported from other clubs and can hardly be classed as youth.

Did he really have a hand in developing the following and if so how well did he achieve? Ablett, Barry, J.Bolton, Buchanan, Crouch (much better under Roos), Doyle, Fixter, Fosdike, Goodes, James, Kennelly (well documented as his mentor) Kirk (surely vastly superior footballer under Roos regime) Matthews (now that one we could debate all day) Nicks, O'Loughlin, Saddington, Sundqvist.

Don't know that he has a lot to hang his hat apart from Kennelly and Goodes as genuine youth development.

How well has he developed the youth at Hawthorn? The answer there is in his dismissal perhaps.

I suggest that George Stone, a good VFA player in his time, is set for the football wilderness of coaching at the top level.

[sharp9]

Geez you're on fire, Nico. Well put. The Hawks youth record over the last 2 or 3 years is possibly the worst in the AFL.

They have not had a single tall come though in the last five years (maybe you could count Campbell the back up ruckman).

Bateman and the rookie listed Osborne and Mitchell are doing well. Hodge came ready made. That's it. Very, very dismal prospects making erratic progress.....Williams, Clarke, Ries, Lonie, Greene, Ball and they got rid of Johnson.

Of those only Williams has actual talent. Sewell might be alright.

The other youngster's on the list aren't even near getting a game, even thought the team is crap.

The worst recruiting and youth development in the league bar NONE. Every Hawk fan thinks the same, BTW.

[Nico]

Thanks mate, nice to see someone occasionally recognises my flashes of brilliance. Makes a welcome change to being called a fruitcake and moron for my views and more recently being told to "get over myself" (whatever that means) by that luminary BAZooka Woman.

Back to the topic at hand. A couple of my friends are Hawthorn fans and they just get the shakes at the mention of Stone and Buckenara working in tandem. I think George may have got his honorary strips at Hawthorn when they were going well, and got dragged along with the crowd cunningly disguised as a coach.

[vicburke]

Originally posted by Nico
Thanks mate, nice to see someone occasionally recognises my flashes of brilliance. Makes a welcome change to being called a fruitcake and moron for my views and more recently being told to "get over myself" (whatever that means) by that luminary BAZooka Woman.

Back to the topic at hand. A couple of my friends are Hawthorn fans and they just get the shakes at the mention of Stone and Buckenara working in tandem. I think George may have got his honorary strips at Hawthorn when they were going well, and got dragged along with the crowd cunningly disguised as a coach.

i dont know. i mean if schneider, bevan, LRT and mcveigh arent classified as 'youth' than do you have to be under 18 in order to fit specification.....

i would have thought that roos had a huge hand in developing and selecting players such as schneider, mcveigh, monty, bevan, tadgh etc. the coach has an eye for talent. even if the coach doesnt deal with them first hand they instruct others how to develop the players and train them. i think roos has had a huge hand in the development of some of our younger members and has started to turn a few roughies into diamonds.
who would of thought that schneider would play as well as he did in 2003? i think roos's youth policy has been a huge step forward for the club;

[sharp9]

Originally posted by vicburke
i dont know. i mean if schneider, bevan, LRT and mcveigh arent classified as 'youth' than do you have to be under 18 in order to fit specification.....

i would have thought that roos had a huge hand in developing and selecting players such as schneider, mcveigh, monty, bevan, tadgh etc. the coach has an eye for talent. even if the coach doesnt deal with them first hand they instruct others how to develop the players and train them. i think roos has had a huge hand in the development of some of our younger members and has started to turn a few roughies into diamonds.
who would of thought that schneider would play as well as he did in 2003? i think roos's youth policy has been a huge step forward for the club;

Um.....I think you missed something there, VB. The thread is about George Stone. You are right, the positives in the Swans are seen here as Roos' influence, not Stone's. The youth was a failure at the Hawks too when Stone was in charge. Apparently a very nice man but his record speaks for itself as far as whether or not he gets another job in football.