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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16772

    George Stone

    The Age reports that George Stone has just left the Hawks "to seek new opportunities elsewhere". It's probably not surprising, given the turmoil at Hawthorn recently.

    Wouldn't mind seeing him back at the Swans, particularly in a youth development role. His success in developing Kennelly to a senior-ready footballer in such a short time was admirable and I was sorry when he left.

  • Damien
    Living in 2005
    • Jan 2003
    • 3713

    #2
    I would have said the Bulldogs and Rocket - but given the financial situation I would doubt there is room.

    I would like to see him back here also - however seeing all future opportunities would be in Melbourne, I doubt he would uproot his family again.

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    • Ryan Bomford
      On the Rookie List
      • Sep 2003
      • 652

      #3
      With Stone gone is anybody left? It appears as if the 'United Front" at Glenferrie still has a few major holes. Funny timing though. Must have started the pre-season and not liked what he saw.

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      • sharp9
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 2508

        #4
        From assistants to recruiting to physio the only one left is John Hooks, football manager.
        "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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        • Ryan Bomford
          On the Rookie List
          • Sep 2003
          • 652

          #5
          Yeah it's getting so quiet down in the land of the Brown and Gold that you can hear a 'Stone' drop.

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          • chammond
            • Jan 2003
            • 1368

            #6
            Re: George Stone

            Originally posted by liz
            The Age reports that George Stone has just left the Hawks "to seek new opportunities elsewhere". It's probably not surprising, given the turmoil at Hawthorn recently.
            Clarkson's first big mistake, I think . . . . thrown out the baby with the bathwater.

            If I was Roos, I'd be on the phone to George first thing!

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            • Damien
              Living in 2005
              • Jan 2003
              • 3713

              #7
              Re: Re: George Stone

              Originally posted by chammond
              Clarkson's first big mistake, I think . . . . thrown out the baby with the bathwater.
              Time will tell! Could be the best move ever. Who knows.

              Not as if Hawthorn set the world on fire while Stone was there remember.

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              • swansrule100
                The quarterback
                • May 2004
                • 4538

                #8
                exactly

                clarkson needs to clean the place out
                Theres not much left to say

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                • Captain
                  Captain of the Side
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3602

                  #9
                  They can throw out all the coaches in the world, it still doesn't hide the fact that they have massive duds on their list such as Holland and Barker.

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                  • Damien
                    Living in 2005
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3713

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Captain
                    They can throw out all the coaches in the world, it still doesn't hide the fact that they have massive duds on their list such as Holland and Barker.
                    LOL true, but they have to start somewhere.

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11339

                      #11
                      My memory is a bit hazy on his time at Sydney under R.Eade. But after 96 I thought that perhaps the development of youth was one of our weaker points, given that blokes like Bolton J and Fosdike didn't really show a lot until Roos took over.

                      Of the 2004 list you can cut out Hall, Ball, C.Bolton, Davis, Dempster, M.Davis, Erickson, Malceski, Maxfield, McVeigh, Meikeljohn, Powell, Lrt, Schauble, Schmidt, Schneider, Thewlis, Warfe, Williams, Willoughby, Bevan as players not there or imported from other clubs and can hardly be classed as youth.

                      Did he really have a hand in developing the following and if so how well did he achieve? Ablett, Barry, J.Bolton, Buchanan, Crouch (much better under Roos), Doyle, Fixter, Fosdike, Goodes, James, Kennelly (well documented as his mentor) Kirk (surely vastly superior footballer under Roos regime) Matthews (now that one we could debate all day) Nicks, O'Loughlin, Saddington, Sundqvist.

                      Don't know that he has a lot to hang his hat apart from Kennelly and Goodes as genuine youth development.

                      How well has he developed the youth at Hawthorn? The answer there is in his dismissal perhaps.

                      I suggest that George Stone, a good VFA player in his time, is set for the football wilderness of coaching at the top level.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • sharp9
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2508

                        #12
                        Geez you're on fire, Nico. Well put. The Hawks youth record over the last 2 or 3 years is possibly the worst in the AFL.

                        They have not had a single tall come though in the last five years (maybe you could count Campbell the back up ruckman).

                        Bateman and the rookie listed Osborne and Mitchell are doing well. Hodge came ready made. That's it. Very, very dismal prospects making erratic progress.....Williams, Clarke, Ries, Lonie, Greene, Ball and they got rid of Johnson.

                        Of those only Williams has actual talent. Sewell might be alright.

                        The other youngster's on the list aren't even near getting a game, even thought the team is crap.

                        The worst recruiting and youth development in the league bar NONE. Every Hawk fan thinks the same, BTW.
                        "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11339

                          #13
                          Thanks mate, nice to see someone occasionally recognises my flashes of brilliance. Makes a welcome change to being called a fruitcake and moron for my views and more recently being told to "get over myself" (whatever that means) by that luminary BAZooka Woman.

                          Back to the topic at hand. A couple of my friends are Hawthorn fans and they just get the shakes at the mention of Stone and Buckenara working in tandem. I think George may have got his honorary strips at Hawthorn when they were going well, and got dragged along with the crowd cunningly disguised as a coach.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • vicburke
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 34

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nico
                            Thanks mate, nice to see someone occasionally recognises my flashes of brilliance. Makes a welcome change to being called a fruitcake and moron for my views and more recently being told to "get over myself" (whatever that means) by that luminary BAZooka Woman.

                            Back to the topic at hand. A couple of my friends are Hawthorn fans and they just get the shakes at the mention of Stone and Buckenara working in tandem. I think George may have got his honorary strips at Hawthorn when they were going well, and got dragged along with the crowd cunningly disguised as a coach.
                            i dont know. i mean if schneider, bevan, LRT and mcveigh arent classified as 'youth' than do you have to be under 18 in order to fit specification.....

                            i would have thought that roos had a huge hand in developing and selecting players such as schneider, mcveigh, monty, bevan, tadgh etc. the coach has an eye for talent. even if the coach doesnt deal with them first hand they instruct others how to develop the players and train them. i think roos has had a huge hand in the development of some of our younger members and has started to turn a few roughies into diamonds.
                            who would of thought that schneider would play as well as he did in 2003? i think roos's youth policy has been a huge step forward for the club;
                            Schneiderman
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                            If he cant do it no one can!

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                            • sharp9
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2508

                              #15
                              Originally posted by vicburke
                              i dont know. i mean if schneider, bevan, LRT and mcveigh arent classified as 'youth' than do you have to be under 18 in order to fit specification.....

                              i would have thought that roos had a huge hand in developing and selecting players such as schneider, mcveigh, monty, bevan, tadgh etc. the coach has an eye for talent. even if the coach doesnt deal with them first hand they instruct others how to develop the players and train them. i think roos has had a huge hand in the development of some of our younger members and has started to turn a few roughies into diamonds.
                              who would of thought that schneider would play as well as he did in 2003? i think roos's youth policy has been a huge step forward for the club;
                              Um.....I think you missed something there, VB. The thread is about George Stone. You are right, the positives in the Swans are seen here as Roos' influence, not Stone's. The youth was a failure at the Hawks too when Stone was in charge. Apparently a very nice man but his record speaks for itself as far as whether or not he gets another job in football.
                              "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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