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  • sharp9
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2508

    How many players.....

    From premiership teams would be on every opposing fan's wish list?

    The reason I'm asking is that having a look at how many we have might give us an idea of how far away we are.

    Definites (Any fan would want them in their team) (9)

    Hall
    O'Loughlin
    Williams
    Kirk
    Barry
    Kennelly
    Schauble
    Schneider
    Goodes (sorry about the original oversight!)

    Maybes (Astute fans would have noticed them and would want them on their team) (5)

    O'Keefe
    Buchanan
    Bevan
    Crouch
    N. Davis

    Potentials (Could develop into players other fans would really desire)

    J. Bolton
    C. Bolton
    Saddington
    Doyle
    Jolly
    McVeigh
    LRT
    Willoughby
    Dempster
    M. Davis

    Good Ordinaries (even great teams have them...but you wouldn't bother picking one up in the PSD)

    Ball
    Ablett
    Mathews
    Maxfield
    Nicks
    Fosdike
    Sundqvist
    Powell
    Thewlis


    My reckoning is that genuine teams would have at least four more players from the "Potentials" list in one of the two higher lists.

    Making 17 in the first 2 groups, 3 or 4 good ordinaries and only 1 or 2 still only "potentially" of interest to opposing coaches and fans.

    For J. Bolton, C. Bolton, Saddington and Doyle I believe that 2005 will see them either move up or down a list. This is make or break time as to whether they become key plyers or foot soldiers. Fosdike, Mathews, James, O'Keefe, and Bevan moved off the "potentials" list in 2004....but only 2 of them on the right direction! I believe Saddo was headed up before his knee injury.

    Age can move players form the top lists to the "Good Ordinaries," like Maxi, Nicksy and Bally. Williamsy flirted with it in 2004....hopefully he will regain his best form for one more season.
    Last edited by sharp9; 10 November 2004, 01:02 PM.
    "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005
  • Charlie
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4101

    #2
    Every team in the league would offer something for O'Keefe and J.Bolton, and a fair few would have a shot at getting Bevan and Davis if they thought they were available.

    C.Bolton, Crouch and Doyle wouldn't be specifically targeted, but they'd be welcome at most clubs.

    Move J.Bolton up two, O'Keefe up one, C.Bolton, Doyle and Saddington up one, and Williams down one on account of age.
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    • Country Member
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      • May 2004
      • 52

      #3
      I would have thought that A Goodes may have been a chance for the definites list!!

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      • Charlie
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 4101

        #4
        Originally posted by Country Member
        I would have thought that A Goodes may have been a chance for the definites list!!
        ..... oops.
        We hate Anthony Rocca
        We hate Shannon Grant too
        We hate scumbag Gaspar
        But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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        • sharp9
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2508

          #5
          Double oops!!

          Can't agree with you, Charlie that other clubs want J. Bolton.

          I am thinking more about fans anyway. I don't think many opposing fans go "Geez I wish Jude was on our list!" though plenty might go "He's pretty good that Bolton, I reckon we'd pick him up for free."

          That's my criteria.
          Last edited by sharp9; 9 November 2004, 12:34 PM.
          "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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          • dread and might
            Back, strapped and intact
            • Apr 2004
            • 949

            #6
            ^^
            in your original post you said every fans wishlist. as much as i like him i wonder how many others rate Schauble.

            don't know if dempster, davis and willoughby would have attracted much attention thus far...and i'm a bit worried at where you have Jolly sitting, although i freely admit that i haven't seen much of him....
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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #7
              I don't think Schneider would be a definite (O'Keefe is closer), nor Schauble.
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • sharp9
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 2508

                #8
                Originally posted by dread and might

                don't know if dempster, davis and willoughby would have attracted much attention thus far...and i'm a bit worried at where you have Jolly sitting, although i freely admit that i haven't seen much of him....
                Exactly why they are not on the list of players on other fans' radars. I put them in the list because I have believe that they have some chance of becoming those players one day. We haven't seen Jolly, really. He's first round draft pick. I would hope that he has the potential to be a match winner rather than a journeyman!

                If we are to challenge in 2005 then several players from the "potentials' list will have to move onto the "I wish we had him" list of opposing fans. That's why he belongs there. You don't spend a first round pick on a bloke you hope will be a good ordinary player.

                Have yet to hear an opposing fan not rate Schneider, let alone one who wouldn't trade for him!
                O'Keefe is nearly there, I agree.
                "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                • sharp9
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2508

                  #9
                  So, now to see if I am an idiot or not, let me take a look at Brisbane's list and see how many I put in the "All fans want them" or "astute fans want them" categories.

                  Definites (13)

                  Akermanis, Jason
                  Black, Simon
                  Bradshaw, Daniel
                  Brown, Jonathan
                  Johnson, Chris
                  Keating, Clark
                  Lappin, Nigel
                  Leppitsch, Justin
                  Power, Luke
                  Michael, Mal
                  Scott, Chris
                  Scott, Brad
                  Voss, Michael

                  Maybes (6)

                  Hadley, Richard
                  Brennan, Jared
                  Caracella, Blake
                  Charman, Jamie
                  McGrath, Ashley
                  Notting, Tim

                  Remembering 3 Premiership players have just retired.

                  Looks like my analysis meter is a good one so far!
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