How many players.....

[sharp9]

From premiership teams would be on every opposing fan's wish list?

The reason I'm asking is that having a look at how many we have might give us an idea of how far away we are.

Definites (Any fan would want them in their team) (9)

Hall
O'Loughlin
Williams
Kirk
Barry
Kennelly
Schauble
Schneider
Goodes (sorry about the original oversight!)

Maybes (Astute fans would have noticed them and would want them on their team) (5)

O'Keefe
Buchanan
Bevan
Crouch
N. Davis

Potentials (Could develop into players other fans would really desire)

J. Bolton
C. Bolton
Saddington
Doyle
Jolly
McVeigh
LRT
Willoughby
Dempster
M. Davis

Good Ordinaries (even great teams have them...but you wouldn't bother picking one up in the PSD)

Ball
Ablett
Mathews
Maxfield
Nicks
Fosdike
Sundqvist
Powell
Thewlis


My reckoning is that genuine teams would have at least four more players from the "Potentials" list in one of the two higher lists.

Making 17 in the first 2 groups, 3 or 4 good ordinaries and only 1 or 2 still only "potentially" of interest to opposing coaches and fans.

For J. Bolton, C. Bolton, Saddington and Doyle I believe that 2005 will see them either move up or down a list. This is make or break time as to whether they become key plyers or foot soldiers. Fosdike, Mathews, James, O'Keefe, and Bevan moved off the "potentials" list in 2004....but only 2 of them on the right direction! I believe Saddo was headed up before his knee injury.

Age can move players form the top lists to the "Good Ordinaries," like Maxi, Nicksy and Bally. Williamsy flirted with it in 2004....hopefully he will regain his best form for one more season.

[Charlie]

Every team in the league would offer something for O'Keefe and J.Bolton, and a fair few would have a shot at getting Bevan and Davis if they thought they were available.

C.Bolton, Crouch and Doyle wouldn't be specifically targeted, but they'd be welcome at most clubs.

Move J.Bolton up two, O'Keefe up one, C.Bolton, Doyle and Saddington up one, and Williams down one on account of age.

[Country Member]

I would have thought that A Goodes may have been a chance for the definites list!!

[Charlie]

Originally posted by Country Member
I would have thought that A Goodes may have been a chance for the definites list!!

..... oops.

[sharp9]

Double oops!!

Can't agree with you, Charlie that other clubs want J. Bolton.

I am thinking more about fans anyway. I don't think many opposing fans go "Geez I wish Jude was on our list!" though plenty might go "He's pretty good that Bolton, I reckon we'd pick him up for free."

That's my criteria.

[dread and might]

^^
in your original post you said every fans wishlist. as much as i like him i wonder how many others rate Schauble.

don't know if dempster, davis and willoughby would have attracted much attention thus far...and i'm a bit worried at where you have Jolly sitting, although i freely admit that i haven't seen much of him....

[NMWBloods]

I don't think Schneider would be a definite (O'Keefe is closer), nor Schauble.

[sharp9]

Originally posted by dread and might

don't know if dempster, davis and willoughby would have attracted much attention thus far...and i'm a bit worried at where you have Jolly sitting, although i freely admit that i haven't seen much of him....

Exactly why they are not on the list of players on other fans' radars. I put them in the list because I have believe that they have some chance of becoming those players one day. We haven't seen Jolly, really. He's first round draft pick. I would hope that he has the potential to be a match winner rather than a journeyman!

If we are to challenge in 2005 then several players from the "potentials' list will have to move onto the "I wish we had him" list of opposing fans. That's why he belongs there. You don't spend a first round pick on a bloke you hope will be a good ordinary player.

Have yet to hear an opposing fan not rate Schneider, let alone one who wouldn't trade for him!
O'Keefe is nearly there, I agree.

[sharp9]

So, now to see if I am an idiot or not, let me take a look at Brisbane's list and see how many I put in the "All fans want them" or "astute fans want them" categories.

Definites (13)

Akermanis, Jason
Black, Simon
Bradshaw, Daniel
Brown, Jonathan
Johnson, Chris
Keating, Clark
Lappin, Nigel
Leppitsch, Justin
Power, Luke
Michael, Mal
Scott, Chris
Scott, Brad
Voss, Michael

Maybes (6)

Hadley, Richard
Brennan, Jared
Caracella, Blake
Charman, Jamie
McGrath, Ashley
Notting, Tim

Remembering 3 Premiership players have just retired.

Looks like my analysis meter is a good one so far!