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  • Wil
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2004
    • 619

    #16
    Originally posted by liz
    In the final wash-up, though, it didn't affect where we finished on the ladder. And while it might have switched around the Saints and Lions on the ladder, I suspect Brisbane would have beaten St Kilda in the first week of the finals had the game been played at the 'G rather than the Gabba, so it probably didn't have any real impact on the way the season finished up.
    Liz... how dare you reply with intelligence, good research and factual information. Haven't you been here long enough to know thats not how we do things around here?

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    • chammond
      • Jan 2003
      • 1368

      #17
      Originally posted by barry
      I would have thought the extra miles covered by a ruckman, and the barrage of leading forwards crashing into your back as you "plug the hole" would make the ruckman far more injury prone than a FF.
      Undoubtedly true overall, but for the Swans the opposite seems to apply.

      Ball's last serious injury was on the lead at full-forward, and twice Doyle has been badly injured in and around the goal square.

      And then there's Simon Feast, who did his knee at the beach . . . .

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      • Plugger46
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2003
        • 3674

        #18
        Keep him playing in the ruck, he's fairly second-rate in the goal square IMO. I reckon Doyle is better suited in the goal square.
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        • Schneiderman
          The Fourth Captain
          • Aug 2004
          • 1615

          #19
          But Ball IS a very good mark overhead (when his shoulders dont trouble him).

          My preference is to use him back instead. Play him as the loose man in defence (as he often did in games where we were playing shorter down back).

          Starting centre bounce, float down back andallow Tadgh and Leo to run off their opponents more often, rest often on the bench to keep him fresh.
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          • Dpw
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 829

            #20
            Originally posted by Schneiderman

            Starting centre bounce, float down back andallow Tadgh and Leo to run off their opponents more often, rest often on the bench to keep him fresh.

            How would that allow Tadgh and Leo to run off there man? if your expecting Ball to cover a flanker or any other player other than another ruckman were in trouble, they would just run off ball or lead him upto to the footy and turn him inside out, no probs with him dropping back in defence but covering players that arent his own would be death.

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            • midaro
              On the Rookie List
              • Jan 2003
              • 1042

              #21
              I don't believe Ball, Doyle and Jolly could possibly all play in the same side.

              ... and what happended to Goodes "modifying his technique" so he can play ruck again. That would make 4!

              IMO even if Goodes dosen't play ruck, in Round 1 Ball and Jolly with play seniors, whilst Doyle plays in Canberra.

              However, I wouldn't expect Ball to play the year out, which will give Doyle his chance.

              To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Ball retires sometime before the PSD (no, I don't have any inside information ).

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              • Rushed Behind
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2004
                • 96

                #22
                not at FF, rest at fb for Ball. I agree with midaro he culd retire this summa or half way thru 2005. his kickin has gone ever since the game 1 in Bris. no confidents with his foot dont put him in front a goal.

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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  #23
                  Originally posted by midaro

                  To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Ball retires sometime before the PSD (no, I don't have any inside information ).
                  I don't think he'll retire until the end of 05 unless he suffers any significan injury

                  He's still our no 1 ruckman at the moment

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Rushed Behind
                    not at FF, rest at fb for Ball. I agree with midaro he culd retire this summa or half way thru 2005. his kickin has gone ever since the game 1 in Bris. no confidents with his foot dont put him in front a goal.
                    When was the last time a ruckman was rested at FB? Maybe as a loose player between FB and CHB, but that is no place to take a rest.

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                    • Sanecow
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 6917

                      #25
                      This year, with our dominant midfield, the back half will be the only place to rest.

                      No, I'm serious.

                      Seriously.

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #26
                        You really do have CJD...
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • Thunder Shaker
                          Aut vincere aut mori
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4202

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NMWBloods
                          You really do have CJD...
                          LOL ..

                          Seriously, I think Bally would definitely do well resting in the forward line. Chances are good that he will not draw their best or tallest defender, and he will force the opposition defence to be accountable.
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