Swans v Lions in Rd 20

[Mike_B]

Well, after all the speculation on here, we have answers. Our game will be at 1:10, televised on Ch 9.

Full details of the adjusted draw here: http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=new...ticleid=179971

[robbieando]

No surprises there.

[footyhead]

I should imagine that the success of this game will mostly depend on ladder position for both teams.
If both teams are middle to upper 8, then I think a crowd above 50 thousand is still possible. Despite the bullying.

[swansrule100]

cant imagine the lions being low and hopefully we wont so expect a good crowd

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by footyhead
I should imagine that the success of this game will mostly depend on ladder position for both teams.
If both teams are middle to upper 8, then I think a crowd above 50 thousand is still possible. Despite the bullying.

I seriously doubt it, considering the live tv, blanket Bledisloe coverage in the papers etc etc, and annoying early start will kill the casual spectators from bothering to make the extra effort to come out on the train to the stadium.

If we get 40000, we should be over the moon. Let's hope the AFL seriously promotes it. And promotes it PROPERLY!


JF

[The Undertaker]

I agree with you,JF!There will be so much talk about the Bedisloe during that week,it wont be funny!The AFL do really need to push the game against the Lions like theres no tomorrow!

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by The Undertaker
I agree with you,JF!There will be so much talk about the Bedisloe during that week,it wont be funny!The AFL do really need to push the game against the Lions like theres no tomorrow!

My tip. Plug it EARLY & OFTEN, BEFORE people start talking about the Bledisloe.

The Melbourne-based AFL are very very naive as to how the Sydney media works and how organisations like the NRL and ARU can manipulate it so that they get as much attention on their sport as possible in the all-important few days leading up to a major event. The ARU have taken this to a low ebb by starting up "stories" in the lead up to both the RL State of Origin and our game against the Pies.

Demetriou has to realise the combatative native of the Sydney sporting scene, especially in the days leading up to a major event. The sooner he fights fire with fire and starts getting his own back for the AFL, the more short-term publicity we will get. Which can mean as much as 10-20000 more people through the gates on match-day/night.

JF

[go_monty]

Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
My tip. Plug it EARLY & OFTEN, BEFORE people start talking about the Bledisloe.

The Melbourne-based AFL are very very naive as to how the Sydney media works and how organisations like the NRL and ARU can manipulate it so that they get as much attention on their sport as possible in the all-important few days leading up to a major event.
JF

And what actual evidence do you have that tells you the Melbourne Based AFL are very very naive.

I understand it that the Melb office of the AFL has a media and public relations officer actually based in Sydney. I am sure they are aware of what goes on. And dont you think the swans media manager would be the first to tell the AFL what they need to do, or at least attempt to be doning.

Instead of passing the blame to someone else why dont all the members actually turn up for a change or if you cant make it call the club so they can resell your seat.

GM

[robbieando]

Originally posted by go_monty
And what actual evidence do you have that tells you the Melbourne Based AFL are very very naive.

But what evidence do you have that they aren't naive???

Instead of passing the blame to someone else why dont all the members actually turn up for a change or if you cant make it call the club so they can resell your seat.

But thats not even the issue, the issue is getting people who aren't members and normally don't go to matches to attend. Reselling your seat won't solve a single thing like you seem to believe.

If you had a clue about this you would know the only way to get first-timers though the gate, is to do as much promotion as possible and as we saw in the lead up to the Collingwood match this year, that can only go so far if Union and League are taking up most of the "prime" spaces in the papers and in the TV news.

As stated by JF, in the week leading upto the Lions match, the media in Sydney will be focusing on the Blediloe Cup match, making in hard for the Swans to do much promotion in the week leading up to the match. Therefore as JF pointed out the club and the AFL should get in early and created as much of a buzz before the media is taken over by Union for the week.

[go_monty]

Originally posted by robbieando
But what evidence do you have that they aren't naive???

I notice how you skipped over my fact that the AFL have a Media and public relations officer actually based in Sydney. This would there for mean that they are not naive, they know whats going on.

Originally posted by robbieando
But thats not even the issue, the issue is getting people who aren't members and normally don't go to matches to attend. Reselling your seat won't solve a single thing like you seem to believe.

I think it should be checked with the club, and find out about how many members actually turn up to a game, i am sure this would be a concern for them.

Originally posted by robbieando
If you had a clue about this you would know the only way to get first-timers though the gate, is to do as much promotion as possible .

You can do as much promotion as you like, the best form though is word of mouth, members bringing friends. Thats why the club continues to have the member get member program so we can get others involved as members

GM

[Talent Scout]

Well i wasn't a member the last time we played the Lions earlier this year, the game was so full up we had to buy sight restricted seats but once in there and looking around, there was a ridiculous amount of seats in the members area empty. I would much rather have paid my money for those seats. So ALL members have to turn up, like it or lump it you as a member may turn up but heaps don't.

[sharpie]

This is a major issue that the club has to address in relation to reserved seating memberships. I believe there are far too many of these at the moment. There should be less reserved seating, at a premium price, and more memberships sold to an extended general admission section of the ground, be it the SCG or homebush.

I may be wrong, but I reckon a lot of people with reserved seating would actually not be fussed if they had to sit in a general admission area instead, especially if it meant the membership cost was reduced.

[Talent Scout]

Originally posted by sharpie
This is a major issue that the club has to address in relation to reserved seating memberships. I believe there are far too many of these at the moment. There should be less reserved seating, at a premium price, and more memberships sold to an extended general admission section of the ground, be it the SCG or homebush.

I may be wrong, but I reckon a lot of people with reserved seating would actually not be fussed if they had to sit in a general admission area instead, especially if it meant the membership cost was reduced.

The issue is not about cost, the issue is with people turning up. People who buy reserved seat membership choose to do so and obviously like the fact they will have a seat when they go to the games in an area they like to sit

[Norris Lurker]

I have a reserved seat membership, and I like having the same seat guaranteed - and I've got to know quite a few people around Bay 7, including Mike_B and swansinger. But it does **** me that too many people in Bay 7 and elsewhere buy reserved seats and then don't use them.
It's easy for me to say, considering I haven't missed a game since reserved concourse seating was introduced in 1998, but why the hell do people pay good money for seats and then not sit in them? Doesn't make sense to me.

Something else occurred to me while I was out on my walk tonight - the change of date to the Sunday rules me (and no doubt some other RWOers as well) out of next year's City to Surf. Still, after tearing that muscle in my knee in this year's race, that may not be such a bad thing.

[sharpie]

Originally posted by Talent Scout
The issue is not about cost, the issue is with people turning up. People who buy reserved seat membership choose to do so and obviously like the fact they will have a seat when they go to the games in an area they like to sit

But is there an option for unreserved seating which is not in the member's reserve area (which has limited numbers)? As far as I know this is not, but of course I may be wrong.

I believe that if there was such an option in the general admission area, many of the people who have reserved seats who happily choose to take the unreserved option, particularly those that know they do not get to every, or nearly every game.

You cant make people turn up. But if you made it more expensive to have reserved seats than non reserved seats, and reduced the numbers of reserved seats, then a higher proportion of those members with reserved seats would turn up more often.