Swans defence

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by swansrule100
on the issue of jude boltons kicking and so forth, i think his biggest critics are swans supporters, other teams fans and coaches and so on and the press rate him a great midfielder. His disposal is ruined a lot by the fact he gets quick clearing pressue kicks because he is in the thick of the action.

That's his role. Being "in the thick of it" doesn't stop plenty of other midfielders in the competition from producing more effective disposals.

[RogueSwan]

Originally posted by Wazza
Please correct me if Im mistaken I thought I read somewhere this type of injury he shouldnt have any soreness but will never be 100% and may restrict some types of movement, turning etc? Which may restrict Goodes in a Midfield role,

Maybe someone knows more about the injury he had/has?

Cheers

Waz

I don't know more but what you have said does ring a bell. I thought this was the problem with Magic also.

[penga]

as far as crouch goes, he can carry the ball and break lines quite well. once he does this, from his usual position - the backline or thereabouts - he will pump it long. this does not require as much accuracy if he were to be breaking the centre, HF lines with the need to hit a forward on the chest. im a crouchy fan but i do not have cofidence in his effectiveness as an offensive midfielder. kirk, while he floats his disposal will usually hit his target and his creative hands more than make up for his kicking deficiencies.

in regard to bolton, while his disposal out of packs may not always be effective as they could be, his main criticism is his delivery in the clear - clearly something is lacking somewhere here.

goodesy is quicker than kouta, who managed to play as a very effective midfielder. id even suggest that goodesy is quicker than kirky! goodes is far from slow and his ability to offload the ball once tackled effectively is a mighty weapon, especially with the flow on football we sometimes play. IMO, roosy will play him at CHB until about round 4 or 5 and then decide where to go from there. id like to see goodes on the wing, with kennelly on the other...

[Ajn]

Time for change, why not go tall with Dempster in for Matthews and Fixter in for Crouch

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Ajn
Fixter in for Crouch

Why???? What has Fixter done in the past two seasons to be in the side ahead of a fully fit Crouch???

[Ajn]

Originally posted by robbieando
Why???? What has Fixter done in the past two seasons to be in the side ahead of a fully fit Crouch???

Namely that Crouch is nowhere near fully fit and it is where Fixter played his best football, albeit a couple of years ago.

I actually would prefer seeing crouch playing a true rover role, I think it's time to expand his game.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by Ajn
Namely that Crouch is nowhere near fully fit and it is where Fixter played his best football, albeit a couple of years ago.

I actually would prefer seeing crouch playing a true rover role, I think it's time to expand his game.

Crouch plays most of his football these days in the midfield anyway with the odd match tagging a small forward such as Milne, with Paul Bevan having taken over the small back pocket role that you want Fixter to have.

As it stands Fixter has hardly played any football for the best part of 30 months and therefore needs to prove himself, a) worthy of a spot in the seniors and b) that he can stay clear of injuries. No point picking on his form in 2002 like many on here have done over the past year.

[swansrule100]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
That's his role. Being "in the thick of it" doesn't stop plenty of other midfielders in the competition from producing more effective disposals.

not many are better though. Maybe players like judd or black, but then as we have both agreed before they are a class above jude.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Wazza
Please correct me if Im mistaken I thought I read somewhere this type of injury he shouldnt have any soreness but will never be 100% and may restrict some types of movement, turning etc? Which may restrict Goodes in a Midfield role,

Maybe someone knows more about the injury he had/has?

Cheers

Waz

Wazza, I guess everyone is an expert. Some just more expert than others. The proof will be when gets back on the park.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Ajn
Namely that Crouch is nowhere near fully fit and it is where Fixter played his best football, albeit a couple of years ago.

I actually would prefer seeing crouch playing a true rover role, I think it's time to expand his game.

I think while Roos likes to have his fair share of stoppers in his side and Crouch continues to do that job well, I doubt he will revert to a rover.

[Nico]

Are we all making the assumption that our game plan will be the same as last year. Maybe Roos will spring a surprise with this new "Over the Ball" rule, and revert to the 2003 attacking style. That is, a keepings off long game.

[Wazza]

Originally posted by Nico
Wazza, I guess everyone is an expert. Some just more expert than others. The proof will be when gets back on the park.

Not claiming to be an expert hence I asked the question does anyone have further knowledge on the type of injury he has.

It was written somewhere last year that this injury will never allow Goodes knee to be 100%, I thought they went on to say it may restrict some types of movement but he will get used to it and adjust accordingly.

I'll see if I can find the story.

Cheers

Waz

[Nico]

I recall that article. I think that was early on in his injury and there seems to be a few opinions floating around since that give different twists to the mystery.

By the way he is darn lucky it was not as bad as Primus.

[Wazza]

Originally posted by Nico
I recall that article. I think that was early on in his injury and there seems to be a few opinions floating around since that give different twists to the mystery.

By the way he is darn lucky it was not as bad as Primus.

Too true Nico, Goodes is the big question for us this year, like you say we will know soon enough. I hope he can play unrestricted as any improvement we gain from him this year will be a huge bonus. As a few posters have said in other threads Roos will probably ease him along to see how he goes.

Cheers

Waz

[liz]

Originally posted by Wazza
Not claiming to be an expert hence I asked the question does anyone have further knowledge on the type of injury he has.

There have been numerous threads on Goodes' injury over the past 6 months. The first injury (the more significant one) was a small tear in the posterior cruciate ligament in the knee. I believe he subsequently damaged a medial ligament in the other knee.

I didn't think Primus' injury was the same - I thought he did his anterior cruciate, though I'm not sure what his problem was the previous season.

Michael Gardiner and Beau McDonald are the two most talked about PCL injuries in recent times. Both ruptured the ligament - ie much worse damage than Goodes suffered and have undergone operations to partially repair it. McDonald still seems a fair way off returning to top level football.

It was reported that Crouch tore his PCL a few seasons back, with similar severity to Goodes' injury. He commented that it took him a while to get used to a different feeling in the knee but that long-term it hasn't affected his movement.