I find no joy in this

[footyhead]

I find no joy in the state of the Swans and their supporters, but I said during the week that the Swans were premature in their "lucky" win last week against the Lions.
Today's result has proved me right.
I repeat everything I have said about Roos and his team. They are playing a @@@@ brand of footy and they do not believe in themselves and they don't have anything like constancy.
In other words Sydney in 2005 has yet another pretender premiership team.
But of course if they make the finals all will be forgiven. How pathetic.

[ROK Lobster]

He's right though. Pretty much all footyhead says is on the money. I don't care if he is a she in Afghanistan and supports the LA Lakers, I agree with most of what he said for the last 12 months. Only right now, I am starting to wonder if the Swans will make the finals.

[ugg]

Mid Table Mediocrity.

[mpr104]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
He's right though. Pretty much all footyhead says is on the money. I don't care if he is a she in Afghanistan and supports the LA Lakers, I agree with most of what he said for the last 12 months. Only right now, I am starting to wonder if the Swans will make the finals.

If we do make the finals, it will be from frustrating and bottling up oppositions, NOT from playing adventurous, exciting and enterprising footy.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by mpr104
If we do make the finals, it will be from frustrating and bottling up oppositions, NOT from playing adventurous, exciting and enterprising footy.

and that's because we lack two tall key position defenders that allow Leo and Tadhg to run off half back and create the adventurous, exciting and enterprising footy we all want the Swans to play.

Problem is we have Schauble on the injury list half the time and no real second option other than playing guys who aren't up to senior footy for one reason or another (LRT/James), or moving guys out of position and weakening the teams adventurous, exciting and enterprising footy in the process (C-Bolt/Leo)

The fact we have failed to draft ANY real key position defenders in the past two drafts (other than redrafting Heath James) has come back to hurt us, as has the lack of attacking talent coming though in the midfield other than McVeigh, who just isn't played on the field offen enough.

What Footyhead has said for 12 months, while it seems right to most, is NOT the real reason we can't improve on our efforts in 2003 when we played adventurous, exciting and enterprising footy and the lack of a second key position defender didn't hurt us because teams didn't/couldn't work out our tactics, thus we had a free run to the third week of the finals.

Its not Roos' fault other teams play us man on man and make it look like we flood, when we are playing to the adventurous, exciting and enterprising tactics of 2003. The only thing he can be blamed for is our lack of tall defenders coming though under his watch and the lack of gametime McVeigh has got in his two years so far.

Stop making FH out to be some sort of wiseman, when all he is, is a St Kilda supporter out to troll RWO.

[ugg]

Originally posted by robbieando
The only thing he can be blamed for is our lack of tall defenders coming though under his watch and the lack of gametime McVeigh has got in his two years so far.

I don't see how that is Roosy's fault. I don't think Heath James can hold a key position, Daniel Hunt had two bites of the cherry and wasn't up to it and LRT will need a few years. At least Vogels and Campbell have been drafted for future years. As for McVeigh, I agree with you to a certain extent. I think Spriggs is taking up a spot on the team which could fall to McVeigh or any of the younger midfielders. Don't think he adds anything extra to our current midfield.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by ugg
I don't see how that is Roosy's fault. I don't think Heath James can hold a key position, Daniel Hunt had two bites of the cherry and wasn't up to it and LRT will need a few years. At least Vogels and Campbell have been drafted for future years.

I think I should of used "could" instead of "can" because I do agree that options have been tried, but the point of was harking back to is the past two draft's when we have only drafted Matt Davis and Heath James as guys could could be called KPP's. That's not good enough in my eyes when you say that you don't think James is up to holding a KP defence spot, then why re-draft him????

Fully fit our defence is very good, but the amount of times we have been without Schaubs the past two seasons has been telling and not really having a true backup is not good enough.

[ugg]

Originally posted by robbieando
I think I should of used "could" instead of "can" because I do agree that options have been tried, but the point of was harking back to is the past two draft's when we have only drafted Matt Davis and Heath James as guys could could be called KPP's. That's not good enough in my eyes when you say that you don't think James is up to holding a KP defence spot, then why re-draft him????

If it was up to me I wouldn't have. I think the idea was always to have Saddo go to CHB and Schauble to FB when Dunkley retired (although this would have been Eade's plan) but as we know Saddo can't hold CHB either.

Have a look at the last 2 drafts (in which Roos was head coach) and the only regular playing KPP backman we could have drafted is Jared Rivers. And he was overlooked by all the other clubs too.

[SXP]

Robbie, you're talking like there was a huge amount of KP players available and Ross has drafted Heath instead. Maybe you should go back and refresh your memory, where Paul clearly said that there were no such players available and James was the best option at the time.
Future is with the young players and I hope we'll find one or we'll wait for that premiership a bit longer.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by robbieando
Stop making FH out to be some sort of wiseman, when all he is, is a St Kilda supporter out to troll RWO.

He has an opinion which I, in part, agree with.

[Newbie]

Our drafting and developing of taller players have been pathetic. Since Dunkley, there has been no one. I am sure that Stafford would have a much better career if his first club was not us.

We seem only be able to teach our players accountability and nothing else.

[swans_premiers]

Originally posted by Newbie
Our drafting and developing of taller players have been pathetic. Since Dunkley, there has been no one. I am sure that Stafford would have a much better career if his first club was not us.

We seem only be able to teach our players accountability and nothing else.

Goodes?

[robbieando]

Originally posted by SXP
Maybe you should go back and refresh your memory, where Paul clearly said that there were no such players available and James was the best option at the time.

Yet why wasn't James brought in today for LRT instead of Spriggs??? Fact is, our lack of talls down back is hurting us because it doesn't allow Leo, Tadhg and C-Bolt to play their natural positions and thus force us to play the game we have played the best part of a year now.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by robbieando
Yet why wasn't James brought in today for LRT instead of Spriggs??? Fact is, our lack of talls down back is hurting us because it doesn't allow Leo, Tadhg and C-Bolt to play their natural positions and thus force us to play the game we have played the best part of a year now.

Spriggs was always going to come in for a tall, as discussed earlier in the week. LRT is fit I'm sure. He would have played if MOL didn't come up.

[footyhead]

It is so ironic

It is ironic that the year that the umpires decides to really come down on defenders, making it very hard hard for them to stop the forwards, is the same year that the Swans decide to try and kick the least number of goals in the entire comp.