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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11328

    Time on ground

    Last night I noticed something about the rotations.

    It appeared that Spriggs and McVeigh went off and on in tandem, yet when they come they immediately got possession out in the open.

    Time on ground:

    Spriggs - 16 possessions - 65 minutes
    McVeigh - 11 " - 58 minutes
    Buchanan - 13 " - 84 minutes
    Nicks - 11 " - 111 minutes
    SChneider - 11 " - 92 minutes
    Mathews - 9 " - 73 minutes
    Davis - 9 " - 88 minutes (why off 30 minutes)

    My point here is on what I observed both Spriggs and McVeigh should play most of the game. If Spriggs can get 16 possessions in half a game and with his endurance why in the hell does he only play a minor role. McVeigh, apart from his "got caught clanger" (where was the talking from team mates) was pretty good in his cameo roles. I am stunned as to why Davis is ever off the ground.

    One theory I have is that the massive rotations used by Roos doesn't do cohesion any good. They must be checking the scoreboard to see when they"must" come off.

    I cannot for the life of me, given Buchanan's poor disposal and Schneider's inabilty to find the footy and poor vision (nice kick to Melbourne player in the square - he only rarely kicks that far) how they get more time than Spriggs and McVeigh.

    What's the answer coach?
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  • Snowy
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2003
    • 1244

    #2
    McVeigh needs to get more game time to develop him. Buchanan should not be in the team in the first place. Molloy said Davis needs to get himself fit, ditto Schneider. Said the team will improve when they get themselves fit. I also thought that Davis and to some extent MOL were redundant last night because playing in a congested forward line when most of the ball is delivered to Hall made it hard for them to get into the contest. Sprigg's big asset is his fitness so you could let him run himself ragged.
    LIFE GOES ON

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16737

      #3
      Re: Time on ground

      Originally posted by Nico
      McVeigh, apart from his "got caught clanger" (where was the talking from team mates) was pretty good in his cameo roles.
      I thought it was one of McVeigh's best games and was a bit surprised when I came home and looked at the stats and realised he didn't get that many possessions.

      Endurance can't be the problem with him so surely he should be playing substantially all of the game in the middle at the moment, at least while we are missing Williams.

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      • Nico
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 11328

        #4
        Liz he is playing his HALF a game in the midfield.

        We need more creative midfielders like him. Half our side are defensive taggers for goodness sake.
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        • stellation
          scott names the planets
          • Sep 2003
          • 9718

          #5
          Davis' fitness does seem to be improving (at least he was sucking in not-quite-so-giant breaths when he came to the bench last night compared to Rds 1 and 4).

          He does seem to be suffering a bit from Mickey playing, Roos is moving him to FF whenever Mickey is off the field... one of the big problems to me being that at times Mickey is off the field because he has had to do some running that has been brought about by Davis finding a bit of the pill around the ground... so as soon as he Davis gets a touch around the ground he gets sent to no mans land.
          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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          • Nico
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            • Jan 2003
            • 11328

            #6
            Could it be that Roos is outcoaching himself.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • anne
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2003
              • 719

              #7
              I'm glad he can outcoach himself as he can't outcoach anyone else!
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              • Snowy
                On the Rookie List
                • Jun 2003
                • 1244

                #8
                The forward structure ironically enough has looked worse since MOL has returned. As Roos said last night it looked dysfunctional. But it still seems to me that Hall is the option too many times, especially when he is swamped. Davis et al were virtually redundant last night because the runners had tunnel vision for Barry and often when he was caught out of position as well as surrounded.
                LIFE GOES ON

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  #9
                  Re: Re: Time on ground

                  Originally posted by liz
                  I thought it was one of McVeigh's best games and was a bit surprised when I came home and looked at the stats and realised he didn't get that many possessions.
                  The reason for this was that most of his possessions were quality possessions!! Except when he got run down with the ball, but that was not entirely his fault, he shoulda been told he was hot!

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9718

                    #10
                    Re: Re: Re: Time on ground

                    Originally posted by ScottH
                    The reason for this was that most of his possessions were quality possessions!! Except when he got run down with the ball, but that was not entirely his fault, he shoulda been told he was hot!
                    It's not like it's a team game or anything Scott!
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Time on ground

                      Originally posted by stellation
                      It's not like it's a team game or anything Scott!
                      Sorry, forgot it was individual immunity up for grabs!!!

                      Lets play for ourselves so we don't get dropped.

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                      • satchmopugdog
                        Bandicoots ears
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 3691

                        #12
                        That seemed to be the standout thing for me and my neighbour in our analysis this morning after recapturing my bloody dog who keeps escaping, that whenever Spriggs came on the ground something seemed to happen. Very pleasing for his sake,not that it matters what two middle aged dog capturing Ulverstonians think.
                        "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11328

                          #13
                          Originally posted by satchmopugdog
                          That seemed to be the standout thing for me and my neighbour in our analysis this morning after recapturing my bloody dog who keeps escaping, that whenever Spriggs came on the ground something seemed to happen. Very pleasing for his sake,not that it matters what two middle aged dog capturing Ulverstonians think.
                          But did the dogs catch any Tassie Tigers?
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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            #14
                            Interesting to see that Dempster was one of 3 to stay on the ground all night. One of the others was Hall.
                            (Ed: actually 1 of 6)

                            Roos obviously has a lot of faith in him.
                            Last edited by ScottH; 25 April 2005, 07:16 PM.

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                            • satchmopugdog
                              Bandicoots ears
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3691

                              #15
                              Forgot to add that my neighbour and I (not that his opinion is worth much as he wears surf sandals WITH socks) thought Dempster was great. No Tassie Tigers were caught but my cat often deposits half a bandicoot on the front door mat.
                              "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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