Buchanan

[i'm-uninformed2]

I said a few years ago when Buchanan was delisted he was too fat, too slow and too useless - or words to that effect. I got bagged at the time.

Regardless of his skin folds or photos of his six pack which people sent me, because I know people on here love to argue distractions, my basic point was this - what good is he?

Can someone name me something significant he has done the past few weeks?

I mean, does he kick goals like other small forwards like Robertson or Davey, does he set up goals like a Mercuri used to, or has he turned a game like a Davis, etc, etc.

And I don't mean the generalisations like "he goes hard at the footy". And again, I don't mean "xxx player is no worse". I agree others are in bad form. And don't start saying I am comparing apples with oranges.

Truly, look at it this way - will he win us a flag, or not?

Goodbye Amon

[motorace_182]

Since when has 1 player won a team a flag? Yeah i reckon he is good enough to assist in one, and i reckon he will one day in the near future play in a premiership team. He is hard at the footy. Generalisation or not, he gives it a red hot go and tries his nuts off. His skill level of late has let him down, but most have. To single Monty out at all is very rough.

[Schneiderman]

Re: Buchanan

Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
Truly, look at it this way - will he win us a flag, or not?

Probably not... which is why he's not on $500,000 per year. Good thing too, considering we have a salary cap and all

[sharpie]

At this stage he deserves to be dropped as he is not doing anything more than a debutant midfielder such as Schmidt or Willhoughby probably could. His form is horrible to the point of being useless at the moment.

But, it is too early to write him off forever. He has shown that he has potential to be a decent inside midfielder, but until he gets any form back, he's just wasting space on the bench. Give him a run in the 2s and get a fresh face in the team for a few weeks while he recovers some form.

Paul Bevan needs exactly the same treatment at the moment.

[tez]

I thought his first quarter was good and overall had a good
game.
I recall one nice foot pass to MOL who missed
the set shot. I feel that Buchanen is one os those players
whose contributions are over looked because he is not up
there kicking goals but providing opportunities, through his
ability to get the hard ball out to others.

[LittleSchneider]

Tez - may I ask what games have you been watching the past few weeks?
Seeing the game live means that those 'little' things you talk of - the running and pressure (Which really WASNT there on the weekend) etc are seen.
His form has been rubbish - mcveigh and schneider got dropped for less - drop him to help him find form.

[Diego]

Him and paul beven are taking up two youngesters space on t he list.

Trade bait if we are lucky. I doubt it though.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Diego

Trade bait if we are lucky. I doubt it though.

Given last year's 'aggresive' trading strategy that saw not one on our list snapped up by another club, I think we would be very lucky.

[liz]

Originally posted by Diego
Him and paul beven are taking up two youngesters space on t he list.

Trade bait if we are lucky. I doubt it though.

At the end of last year Bevan finished top 5 in the RS Award.

Yes, he still has a lot to learn but many players find their second and third years tougher than their first before settling down to become decent players. To suggest he is wasting space on the list is a premature comment, surely.

What will we do when Moore, Schmidt, Dempster, Malceski, Grundy, Willoughby et al all fail to become superstars of the competition within their second year of senior football? Will we call for them to be dumped too?

Whether he should currently be in the team is another question altogether, though as per a post on another thread, I'm not sure there is anyone else in the wings who would necessarily do better at the moment.

[stellation]

Originally posted by liz

What will we do when Moore, Schmidt, Dempster, Malceski, Grundy, Willoughby et al all fail to become superstars of the competition within their second year of senior football? Will we call for them to be dumped too?

I think you know the answer to that one Liz.

[sharpie]

Originally posted by liz
Whether he should currently be in the team is another question altogether, though as per a post on another thread, I'm not sure there is anyone else in the wings who would necessarily do better at the moment.

The rest I agree with, but this I dont. I would agree with this comment if it was in regards to a Mathews, Kennelly or Maxfield, who are all integral parts of the team's structural setup (for better or worse), but I struggle to believe that either Bevan or Buchanan have actually added much this season that a debutant couldnt with the same amount of opportunities.

[anne]

...but no-one else gets opportunities.

[smasher]

Roosy loves Bevan so you'd expect he to be pencilled in early at the selection table.

[hammo]

Originally posted by liz


What will we do when Moore, Schmidt, Dempster, Malceski, Grundy, Willoughby et al all fail to become superstars of the competition within their second year of senior football? Will we call for them to be dumped too?

It would be nice if they were given a chance to show what they've got.

The coaching staff won't find out anything if they keep running round in the reserves notching up 30 possessions.

[Whitefox]

Originally posted by liz

What will we do when Moore, Schmidt, Dempster, Malceski, Grundy, Willoughby et al all fail to become superstars of the competition within their second year of senior football? Will we call for them to be dumped too?

We're not talking about becoming superstars - we're talking about having the absolute basic football skills and being able to make a half decent decision.