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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #31
    I believe Roos is like so many coaches I have seen or played under. He has decided who can play and who can't and this will affect his decision making when selecting the team as opposed to actual recent performance on the field.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • Nico
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 11339

      #32
      Originally posted by NMWBloods
      I believe Roos is like so many coaches I have seen or played under. He has decided who can play and who can't and this will affect his decision making when selecting the team as opposed to actual recent performance on the field.
      How true.
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      • Schneiderman
        The Fourth Captain
        • Aug 2004
        • 1615

        #33
        Originally posted by NMWBloods
        I believe Roos is like so many coaches I have seen or played under. He has decided who can play and who can't and this will affect his decision making when selecting the team as opposed to actual recent performance on the field.
        Not that there is a selection "committee" or anything, or that the playing group themselves have an opinion on the matter.

        In another post here we question the feeling of "teamship" at the moment. If you start dropping players who may be a little under-done, but otherwise have experience and a history of being part of the top 22, you get rebellion.

        This is fine if you make changes because you are rebuilding, or the season is over anyway, or its a new coach / gameplan. Otherwise you just make people nervous about why they get dropped.

        Funny how so many here, you included NMW, were incensed by Roos "dragging" McVeigh over the Davey tackle, yet the same people jump down the throats of players who have two or three or five bad games out of over a hundred so far. Is this not the height of hypocrisy? Surely it sends the same message to players in the group that a few bad games (maybe because you took too many risks, or just played on a red-hot opponent, etc) and now you have play in the seconds? The Troy Luff comments on the desire to do too much is poignant here.

        I am not saying that we shouldn't drop some seniors, or drag players who make a dumb play either. But its a fine line between making a point and destroying morale.
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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #34
          Originally posted by Schneiderman
          Not that there is a selection "committee" or anything, or that the playing group themselves have an opinion on the matter.
          The coahc has the final say and drives the process.
          In another post here we question the feeling of "teamship" at the moment. If you start dropping players who may be a little under-done, but otherwise have experience and a history of being part of the top 22, you get rebellion.
          You don't drop players who have been consistently underperforming you build a culture of near enough is good enough.
          This is fine if you make changes because you are rebuilding, or the season is over anyway, or its a new coach / gameplan. Otherwise you just make people nervous about why they get dropped.
          You make it pretty clear that players are dropped because they are not performed.
          Funny how so many here, you included NMW, were incensed by Roos "dragging" McVeigh over the Davey tackle, yet the same people jump down the throats of players who have two or three or five bad games out of over a hundred so far. Is this not the height of hypocrisy?
          No - Roos said he was going to let the young guys play rather than drag them after a mistake. That's not what he did with McVeigh. This is how they learn. More experienced players who are not playing well do not learn from being left in the firsts - if they may be dropped they learn they need to play their best. I don't the two as comparable.
          Surely it sends the same message to players in the group that a few bad games (maybe because you took too many risks, or just played on a red-hot opponent, etc) and now you have play in the seconds? The Troy Luff comments on the desire to do too much is poignant here.
          It sends a message that after a number of underperforming games, players need to improve or make way for other players. That's what happens in professional sports. I think it's possible to determine whether the player didn't do well because they were on a 'red-hot opponent' or tried to do certain things that didn't come off, as opposed to those who are simply not performing.
          I am not saying that we shouldn't drop some seniors, or drag players who make a dumb play either. But its a fine line between making a point and destroying morale.
          And so how is this different to what I was saying?
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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