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  • Sanecow
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Mar 2003
    • 6917

    Roos is gone.

    From The Sydney Swans Football Club:

    Paul Roos, his coaching staff and player group have our unconditional support...
    Uh oh! A media statement that Roos has unconditional support! He will be gone by year's end.
  • Go Swannies
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    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    #2
    Re: Roos is gone.

    Originally posted by Sanecow
    From The Sydney Swans Football Club:



    Uh oh! A media statement that Roos has unconditional support! He will be gone by year's end.
    If it came from out of the blue then you'd be right. (Like John Howard saying he'll stay on may have precipitated his departure.) But this is just support after an unprecedented attack from the boss of the AFL. If the club hadn't come out in total support it'd have looked wrong.

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    • Sanecow
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Mar 2003
      • 6917

      #3
      It's a footy tradition to sack the coach in any season you claim to fully support him.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #4
        Exactly - when they start reacting to these comments you know what they're thinking. Any coach who has received "unconditional support" has been out of a job before the end of the season, the next at the most (unless they produce a stunning turnaround in form).
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • mocaholic
          Regular in the Side
          • Oct 2003
          • 575

          #5
          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          Exactly - when they start reacting to these comments you know what they're thinking. Any coach who has received "unconditional support" has been out of a job before the end of the season, the next at the most (unless they produce a stunning turnaround in form).
          As Bernard Woolley in Yes Minister said, you can't stab someone in the back until you stand behind them!
          Insert Your Life [HERE]

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #6
            LOL!
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • Go Swannies
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              • Sep 2003
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              #7
              Originally posted by Sanecow
              It's a footy tradition to sack the coach in any season you claim to fully support him.
              If a team is playing badly and then the management says it's going to fully support the coach, that's true. But this is an unprecedented situation. The head of the AFL has attacked the way one of the 16 AFL coaches has his team playing.

              The club cannot attack back - imagine if Colless or Roos said "well, the Swans are running better than the AFL is. And that is firstly in terms of raising interest for AFL in NSW. Secondly, it should be more concerned with developing umpires (particularly Darren Goldspink) who get more of their decisions right and don't appear to have a clear bias against some teams."

              That would certainly get the headlines. And a fine of $10,000 or more? So the club has only two choices: stay silent and give tacit support to the AD statement or make a statement that he is wrong. To do that is to give support to the coach. It doesn't make any difference in the statement if they state "unconditional support" because it is there inherently. However, the purpose of any press release is to give journalists the lines to use so the statement may as well say it rather than require any journalist (particularly one in the sports section) to think.

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              • j s
                Think positive!
                • Jan 2003
                • 3303

                #8
                Re: Roos is gone.

                Originally posted by Sanecow
                From The Sydney Swans Football Club:



                Uh oh! A media statement that Roos has unconditional support! He will be gone by year's end.
                Footyhead will be happy. AFAIK the only person connected with the Swans whose immediate sacking he hasn't demanded is waterboy #3

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Go Swannies
                  So the club has only two choices: stay silent and give tacit support to the AD statement
                  Most organisations will not dignify comments they think are rubbish with a response. Instead they will let their actions speak. At most they should have said it is AD's personal viewpoint and they disagree. This would have been a better response than circling the wagons - ie: proclaiming support for the coach and players.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • footyhead
                    Banned indefinitely by Moderators for posting totally inappropriate material
                    • May 2003
                    • 1367

                    #10
                    Re: Re: Roos is gone.

                    Originally posted by j s
                    Footyhead will be happy. AFAIK the only person connected with the Swans whose immediate sacking he hasn't demanded is waterboy #3
                    Hey there Mr/Ms ding dong, the only people I have been calling on to be sacked (at this stage) are Roos and Colless.
                    Last edited by footyhead; 3 May 2005, 04:56 PM.

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                    • Snowy
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                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1244

                      #11
                      The doomed wording is usually THE BOARD IS FULLY BEHIND THE COACH
                      LIFE GOES ON

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                      • Go Swannies
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Snowy
                        The doomed wording is usually THE BOARD IS FULLY BEHIND THE COACH
                        Did you mean the bored are fully behind the coach? (I now have a Simpsons' zombies scene playing in my head.)

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                        • mocaholic
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 575

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Go Swannies
                          Did you mean the bored are fully behind the coach? (I now have a Simpsons' zombies scene playing in my head.)
                          Bart: Dad, you shot the Zombie Flanders!
                          Homer: Flanders was a zombie?
                          Insert Your Life [HERE]

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                          • Snowy
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                            • Jun 2003
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                            #14
                            Heard Colless being interviewed this arvo and he said the club is committed to Ireland and Roos until 2008 so it would be expensive to extricate the club from that contract. He also said the club was guilty of a miscalculation after 1996 thinking it was closer to a flag than it was and he cited the purchase of players such as Ryan O'Connor, Green and Hawkings being ill-conceived while also admitting it's hard to get the great talent without giving up your best players or finishing near the bottom.
                            LIFE GOES ON

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                            • Sanecow
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 6917

                              #15
                              Do the board have some egg on their face now, or what!

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