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  • hird_god
    On the Rookie List
    • Apr 2004
    • 69

    AFL Response to MJ Fifty

    From Australian Associated Press this afternoon ...

    SYDNEY, May 8 AAP - The AFL has moved swiftly to stop any debate on sledging after Essendon's Mark Johnson was wrongly slapped with a 50m penalty for calling Sydney's Amon Buchanan a "weak dog".

    The incident occurred midway through the tense final quarter of the Swans' narrow win over the Bombers at Telstra Stadium at Saturday night, 13.16 (94) to 14.4 (88).

    Johnson had been penalised for a tackle on Buchanan on the back edge of the centre square and the young Swan stayed down after being accidentally poked in the eye.

    A furious Johnson stood over Buchanan, told him to get up and called him a "weak dog" for staying on the ground.

    With the match in the balance, umpire Martin Ellis imposed a 50m penalty after telling an astonished Johnson: "You can't call a player a weak dog".

    Buchanan kicked a point from the resulting play.

    The AFL today reacted quickly to Ellis's decision and said he had blundered despite umpires being allowed to award a 50m penalty for players abusing opponents.

    "The umpiring department met this morning and deemed it was a mistake and it should not have been a 50m penalty," an AFL spokesman said.

    Bombers coach Kevin Sheedy was bemused by the decision, assuming that Johnson must have sworn at Buchanan.

    The four-time premiership-winning coach felt that even swearing shouldn't have resulted in a 50m penalty.

    "You would not want to give a free kick for every time a person swears on the footy field, they are not at the nuns' convent if you understand what I am saying," he said.

    "We don't want to take our game to the nuns' convent so as far as I am concerned there are areas of the game which need to be looked at."

    Sheedy couldn't help delivering a cheeky dig at the AFL for the incident.

    "At the end of the week, it has been an ugly week for the AFL and for Sydney, so maybe it was a nice present," he quipped.
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  • Schneiderman
    The Fourth Captain
    • Aug 2004
    • 1615

    #2
    Re: AFL Response to MJ Fifty

    Originally posted by hird_god
    With the match in the balance, umpire Martin Ellis imposed a 50m penalty after telling an astonished Johnson: "You can't call a player a weak dog".
    I just enjoyed the look of utter amazement on his face. Have always thought he was a bit of a showboat, so the penalty had me in stitches (even though it shouldn't have been paid).
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    • gazza
      Warming the Bench
      • Mar 2005
      • 329

      #3
      WEAK DOG IS ONE OF THE WORST SLURS THAT CAN BE USED,ESPECIALLY TO A PERSON INVOLVED IN A CONTACT SPORT,IT QUESTIONS THE INTEGRITY OF A PLAYER.I BELIEVE IT WAS A CORRECT DECISION.
      MANY PLAYERS WOULD RATHER BE SUBJECTED TO ALL THE SWEAR WORD KNOWN THAN TO CALLED A WEAK DOG.
      I THINK JOHNSON SHOULD APOLOGISE AND THOSE WHO DEFEND HIS COMMENTS OBVIOUSLY HAVE LED A VERY SHELTERD LIFE AND DON'T REALL Y UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.IF YOU SAID THIS INSIDE A JAIL YOU WOULD NEED TO BE READY FOR A FIGHT OR EVEN STABBED
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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #4
        Originally posted by Schneiderman
        I just enjoyed the look of utter amazement on his face.
        Classic, look !!!!!

        Made up for a few crap decisions earlier.

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        • ScottH
          It's Goodes to cheer!!
          • Sep 2003
          • 23665

          #5
          'Weak dog' penalty wrong - AFL

          'Weak dog' penalty wrong - AFL
          Former Carlton coach David Parkin blamed the use of microphones on umpires for the furore, believing it had caused umpires to be extremely conscious of comments being broadcast.

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          • Jimmy C
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 366

            #6
            It makes up for the 50m penalty that should have been awarded to Leo after that butt-munch Lloyd rode him into the turf with his hands around Leo's head (AFTER Leo took the grab). He should be cited for that one imo.

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            • Charlie
              On the Rookie List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4101

              #7
              Meh. Craig Bolton would have been laughing his head off.
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              • Wil
                On the Rookie List
                • Jun 2004
                • 619

                #8
                That is an outrage!

                "Weak Dog"!?! What kind of a poor insult is that? What does it mean? Don't these football players get any kind of education. I demand better insults! He deserved a 50 for that howler...

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wil
                  That is an outrage!

                  "Weak Dog"!?! What kind of a poor insult is that? What does it mean? Don't these football players get any kind of education. I demand better insults! He deserved a 50 for that howler...

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                  • ugg
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                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15970

                    #10
                    The umpire apparently sanitised the comment because he knew his words were being televised.
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                    • Thunder Shaker
                      Aut vincere aut mori
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4205

                      #11
                      I was the first to comment on that interesting decision in the match day thread, but I'll add a few notes here.

                      The look on MJ's face was priceless. It was so wonderful that Channel 10 replayed the closeup twice just for the facial expression.

                      The channel 10 telecast had the umpire saying that MJ can't call his opponent a "weak dog", but Channel 10 made several comments along the lines that the actual language used by MJ was stronger than that and that they could not repeat what he actually said (it wasn't very audible on the telecast so I didn't catch it). The impression I got was that some form of expletive was used.

                      I agree that the decision was soft, as a minimum he should have got a warning first. However, if the expletive theory is correct, then perhaps the umpire was making sure that further on-field expletives didn't get broadcast.

                      There were other interesting umpiring decisions (the one that I remember was a Swans player getting pinged for holding the ball with an opponent reaching for the ball over his shoulder while sitting on his back).
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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                        There were other interesting umpiring decisions (the one that I remember was a Swans player getting pinged for holding the ball with an opponent reaching for the ball over his shoulder while sitting on his back).
                        That was either LRT or Bevan (can't recall but I think the former). On the ground and clearly dragged it in. Was in a tough position and a Tim Lane noted couldn't really get it out with someone lying on him and with a high tackle. However, dragging the ball in will nearly always get pinged first before the other infringements.
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                        • Thunder Shaker
                          Aut vincere aut mori
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4205

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NMWBloods
                          However, dragging the ball in will nearly always get pinged first before the other infringements.
                          That's the impression I got at the time - that the ball was dragged in first so that's what must be penalised. He was a bit stiff though; it's quite hard to get the ball out when an opponent is sitting on you.
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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            #14
                            Twas LRT and in his favour, as TL also pointed out, he couldn't even see the ball, with a player on his back, around his neck, and in his face.

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #15
                              It's tough in that it's difficult to get the ball out in that case (particularly in certain cases when the opposition push the ball un under you) but the umpires' view will be don't drag the ball in under you in the first place.
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