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  • Newbie
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    • Mar 2003
    • 720

    Cool down

    I dont think making a large chunk replacement of the current team with kids would be the answer to your long term advantage.

    Schneider while is playing OK, he plays well in his current role. If we are going to throw McVeigh, Dempster, LRT, Hunt into the team at the same time, clearly Schneider will have to take up more responsibility which his youtful body might not be ready yet.

    Collingswood model in which few youngsters are given few games and then move back to reserve to be placed with another bunch might be the way to go. This means we will have to keep up with the current team for a while (might be a year or two).
  • SWANSBEST
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 868

    #2
    Unfortunately , I think that you may be correct. Most of the young hopefuls are slight and could be crucified playing against say the Lions at the present time . This is probably the best way and hopefully some will step up to the mark asap.
    WMP

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    • Charlie
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4101

      #3
      Well, realistically, last year's draftees shouldn't play in any case unless they are physically strong enough and are putting in stellar performances at ACTAFL level.

      The only players currently outside the team that I think need to be thrown in and played are Buchanan, Sundqvist, Roberts-Thompson, Hunt and Powell. McVeigh et al need not panic... they have plenty of time.
      We hate Anthony Rocca
      We hate Shannon Grant too
      We hate scumbag Gaspar
      But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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      • robbieando
        The King
        • Jan 2003
        • 2750

        #4
        The only rookies that I would bring in would be LRT, Sundqvist and Powell. The first 2 MUST come in this week with Powell following soon after. Its one thing to call for the young kids its another thing to play them. Throw too many in and the will get beaten, sure it might help in the long term, but you don't want to risk them losing their minds.

        So saying all that this week the changes should be

        INS:

        ROBERTS-THOMSON - With Neitz playing for the Dees and in good form we need height down back so we can cover the entire Melbourne forward not just Neitz.

        SUNDQVIST - The midfield at the minute is **** no question about it we are getting nothing from it and apart from Sunny who else can we put in to improve it????

        FIXTER - Oh God how much are we missing him. Can add bite to the midfield and will free up others so he can take a tagging role if need be.

        SEYMOUR - OK now I'm not sure if he will be fit, but if he is, he is a must have. Can play above his height and I do think we are a better side with him in it (Hopefully his poor form last year was a one off) Can take pressure of C.Bolton and Saddo so they can do other things.

        OUTS:

        MATHEWS - Adds nothing to the side at the moment, his skills are **** and frankly needs a wake up call.

        McPHERSON - Why is he still here. Does his best, has good skills, but his decision making and pace are really hurting him.

        ABLETT - Sure we need to play the young kids, but when the get the chance they have to show form. I felt last night he didn't add anything, maybe a few more weeks down in Canberra will help him.

        BARRY or STEVENS - Take your pick with these 2, both need form and a wake up call. Leo needs it because he is looking stale, Stevo needs it because he needs to step up and in his current form it isn't going to happen anytime soon, so a few weeks kicking goals in Canberra might help.
        Once was, now elsewhere

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        • midaro
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 1042

          #5
          ROK has to come in to. Surely?

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          • Cheer Cheer
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            • Jan 2003
            • 934

            #6
            Is there a place for buchanan in the team with schnieder doing so well?
            Maybe schnieder can go into the midfield down the track and buchanan can be a permanent half forward or forward pocket?
            At the moment I dont think there is a place for buchanan.
            No.1 ticket holder of Nick Davis Fan Club...

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            • skilts stilts
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              • Jan 2003
              • 72

              #7
              Sydney have used 26 players this year.Only Richmond have used fewer and they are still to play today.So this @@@@ that dopey roos is spruiking about this year being a rebuilding year is a furphy.It has been shown thus far that there are about 6-8 seasoned players in the team that can't cut it.Even if they play to their maximum ability they will not take us anywhere.
              OUT; Barry,Schauble Crouch Matthews Fosdike Kirk Mcpherson and Davis.
              In; whatevers left on the list. At least give us a look at them.
              As for Roos ,I have always feared that he will be the greatest disaster since Buckenara.

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              • sWAns63
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                • Apr 2003
                • 572

                #8
                So what are you saying...do nothing? Are we resigned to the fact that this year Sydney have a hopeless team? And that all the youngsters are hopeless apart from Schnieder & C. Bolton? What are you saying, that these players are made out of cardboard, that they're not physically able to play at a senior level? If that's the case we will be getting the wooden spoon this year, which is probably good as we'll be getting the top draft picks. Why can every team in the comp play lots of their youngsters but we won't play ours? What can it hurt sticking in a chunk of youth? Give them experience for next season....

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                • Newbie
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 720

                  #9
                  I believe that our focus for this year should be on the players' developments, particularly the younger ones. I would pencil in how many games, our young players could take for the year. I for once dont think any young players in ourlist will last the whole season.

                  I will pencil in about 12 games for Schneider, 12 for Albett, 6-12 for Mark Powell, LRT and Sundquist. The rest probably few games to give them a taste. All together about 50-60 games. Over 22 games season, that is about 2-3 younger players each game. Probably more for the games toward the end of the season.

                  We are pretty on track for this.

                  Given our current performances, we might be a bit extra aggressive to push the figure to about 70-80 games which means an extra younger player per game.

                  Pushing this figure toward 100 or 120 games is probably too many for them.

                  I would be interested to know how many games, first year players played for Geelong last year. I doubt it would top 100 games and Geelong was pretty aggressive in fast-tracking its young list.

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                  • lizz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16778

                    #10
                    Originally posted by skilts stilts
                    Sydney have used 26 players this year.Only Richmond have used fewer and they are still to play today.So this @@@@ that dopey roos is spruiking about this year being a rebuilding year is a furphy.It has been shown thus far that there are about 6-8 seasoned players in the team that can't cut it.Even if they play to their maximum ability they will not take us anywhere.
                    OUT; Barry,Schauble Crouch Matthews Fosdike Kirk Mcpherson and Davis.
                    In; whatevers left on the list. At least give us a look at them.
                    As for Roos ,I have always feared that he will be the greatest disaster since Buckenara.

                    I've just posted a very long response on another thread and am not going to repeat it here. But I can't let that list of outs pass without comment.

                    Schauble has played two games this season. He was beaten last week against the Crows but pretty OK against the Hawks. We know he's not a fullback - that's not his fault. Trying to hold down that position he's going to get beaten at times this year - sometimes badly. But he's the best we have. And if we ever get the luxury of playing him at CHB where he belongs he could again be a very good player for us.

                    Crouch - just don't understand his inclusion at all on this list. He hasn't been brilliant but he's been solid. Crawford got a reasonable amount of the ball but I've seen him have much better games and cause far more damage to other teams. Similarly in other games, I thought Crouch had done a reasonable job on his opponent while still getting some of it himself. (Proviso to this is that I can't remember who he was playing on against Freo.)

                    Kirk - done OK. Certainly not the worst.

                    Davis - needs to lift maybe but he's still kicked goals. We're a better team with him in that out - who would you put in his place?

                    The others I'm more ready to contemplate, though I would hestitate with Fossie because I think he'll come through. I think he's been being more closely tagged than in the past and he obviously needs to work around this but I think he will.

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                    • robbieando
                      The King
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2750

                      #11
                      I think for changes at the most for this week. Sure we could go all out and drop 10 if we wanted to but while it seems like a good idea its not wise to drop 6 first gamers in at one go. It has to be done over a period of weeks, because while we are not winning at the moment droping 10 won't make us better. We don't want to ruin the young kids because they are on the end of a hiding. We have Collingwood and Brisbane coming up so its not wise to expose the rookie to them.

                      10 over 6 weeks is better than 10 in 1 week
                      Once was, now elsewhere

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                      • TheMase
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1207

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cheer Cheer
                        Is there a place for buchanan in the team with schnieder doing so well?
                        Maybe schnieder can go into the midfield down the track and buchanan can be a permanent half forward or forward pocket?
                        At the moment I dont think there is a place for buchanan.
                        Schneider to the midfield (3qtrs).
                        Buchanan to the FP at the feet of Hall
                        Hall and Davis as leading forwards.

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                        • Cheer Cheer
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 934

                          #13
                          Where does oloughlin fit in your plans masey?
                          floating across half forward? and okeefe ?
                          Thats what I mean maybe there isnt room for buchanan ? Or is there?
                          No.1 ticket holder of Nick Davis Fan Club...

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                          • TheMase
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1207

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Cheer Cheer
                            Where does oloughlin fit in your plans masey?
                            floating across half forward? and okeefe ?
                            Thats what I mean maybe there isnt room for buchanan ? Or is there?

                            Schneider - Rover (perhaps rotating with Davis and O'Keefe and perhaps Buchanan at times)
                            O'Keefe - Centre (swapping with Davis into the midfield)
                            O'Loughlin - Half Forward Flank
                            Buchanan - Feet of Hall

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                            • Newbie
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 720

                              #15
                              There is NO room for Buchanan in the team. Unless he improves signficantly, he does not deserve a spot in the team. No team can afford a full-time crumber these days. That spot is for resting midfielders. (Milne and Matera are small forwards, not crumbers).

                              ROK, Schneider and Buchanan playing together and we dont have the leg-speed and flexibility in the midfield.

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