Malcolm Blight to coach the Swans.

[Guzzitza]

Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
Consider the thought of a 'mad' coach and some of the alternative names mentioned here, both for and against by other posters?

Blight - truly eccentric, but the bloke won two flags with a team that was at best slightly above average

Malthouse - babbles on about Chinese theology and riddles but won two flags at the WC and got an ordinary Collingwood to two GFs.

Matthews - a man who walks to the beat of his own drum and took a young side up to 3 Premierships, as well as one with the Pies.

Sheedy - martians, seagulls, do I need to say more. A few flags there.

Roos - a nice, normal, decent, conventional guy. A side going backwards fast.

I'll take a nutjob anyday.

Heh, good points there. I suppose you have to consider though, its like the chicken & the egg debate. Were they crazy before or after they became good coaches? Perhaps they started off sane and coaching for many years has made them CRAAAZY.. Roos might blow his top any second, its always the quiet ones that implode and go nuts. Perhaps if we wait out this sane patch, Roosy will come good and start doing all kinds of crazy things - when he starts doing the crazy chicken dance at quarter time then i'll jump back on the roosy bandwagon

[Legs Akimbo]

I reckon Roos has two options to secure his job for the short to medium term.

Option 1 - get a top four finish this year and in the process, increase the scoring by about 30%. The two are related and this obviously depends on the players ability to radically alter their style of play for the rest of the season.

Option 2 - get a bottom four finish, blood most of younger or fringe players and turnover the list at the end of the year. 'Unfortanately' we have already won 5 games, so no priority picks.

Seems that the choice between the two will depend a lot on the next 3 weeks. Even if we lose just the Carlton game, he should start to ponder option 2.

His worst choice is to try to slug it out towards bottom-8 by sticking to the current strategy, playing the same offenders week in and week out. IMO, if he does this the fat lady (or Nick Davis) will start warming the vocal chords.

[footyhead]

I agree,
This is exactly what the Swans refuse to do when the rot sets in.
I suppose you should admire their never say die attitude, but at times it is just plain dumb when you consider what they are up againts with the way the draft is structured ect.

[knownothing]

Personally i blame SSI and that Blandis joker.

Afterall don't they claim they got Roos appointed with that campaign three years ago. Remember the protest meeting outside the Swan's office and the silly petition.

But who knows if Wallace, Blight, Sheedy or anyone else would be better?

Maybe we're just crap.

[desredandwhite]

Originally posted by footyhead
I agree,
This is exactly what the Swans refuse to do when the rot sets in.
I suppose you should admire their never say die attitude, but at times it is just plain dumb when you consider what they are up againts with the way the draft is structured ect.

Well, it's really a fault in the system that it rewards mediocrity instead of providing assistance for clubs in genuine need of help.

I find the thought of tanking games quite objectionable, even if the "rewards" are good. IMO, the club should be trying to win every single game it plays. Now, if it so happens that we're just not any good and finish on the bottom, then I will look forward to the first draft pick as a CONSOLATION.

Otherwise you end up with the ludicrous situation where teams will deliberately try to lose games when it's clear they won't challenge for a flag. For some teams, that might be after 8 rounds. For others it might be after 14, or 18. The sight of 10 teams not giving a crap in the last 3 or 4 rounds WILL lead to the eventual demise of the AFL, no question about it.

Anyway, that's getting a little off topic. Roos is a good coach IMO, but he is suffering from a major case of 2nd (and 3rd) year blues. I'm not certain a new coach would have much of an impact, unless there's a major restructure of the list at the same time.

No doubt some here will push for both

[mikesmi]

what's the point of this threadm it's useless

[Nico]

Originally posted by knownothing
Personally i blame SSI and that Blandis joker.

Afterall don't they claim they got Roos appointed with that campaign three years ago. Remember the protest meeting outside the Swan's office and the silly petition.

But who knows if Wallace, Blight, Sheedy or anyone else would be better?

Maybe we're just crap.

Getting warmer.

[Nico]

If we get rolled by Carlton in a close game that resembles the 2002 Colonial Stadium game against the Saints, will the events of mid 2002 be revisited?

By the way, and it may have been already posted, Robert Walls said he was walking behind a group of Melbourne Swans supporters after the game who were debating whether they would bother coming back next week. That is sad, because over all the years from the 60's to when they moved to Sydney I never heard people say that. It was always, oh well there is always next week.

Crowd numbers this week will be very interesting as will the amount of red and white. On looking around the ground last week it just seemed to me that there was a fair bet less of our colours than usual.

How must Tony Morwood be feeling about his add campaign to 10,000 Melbourne members. We are in a PR crisis and I don't hear too many spin doctors coming to our aid.

[barry]

Originally posted by Nico
If we get rolled by Carlton in a close game that resembles the 2002 Colonial Stadium game against the Saints, will the events of mid 2002 be revisited?

By the way, and it may have been already posted, Robert Walls said he was walking behind a group of Melbourne Swans supporters after the game who were debating whether they would bother coming back next week. That is sad, because over all the years from the 60's to when they moved to Sydney I never heard people say that. It was always, oh well there is always next week.

Thats fantastic. Supporters who demand success. The sooner we move away from "oh well there is always next week." the better.

[liz]

Talk about massive over-reaction.

There is no way Roos job is in doubt for next year or the year after. He's completed two seasons with the team for a 3rd and 5th place finish. He's won two finals, including the first one out of Sydney since the Swans moved up north.

We are less than half way through this season and the going has certainly got tougher but we are 5-5 without ever really hitting our straps.

Yes, Saturday night was horrid but the Swans (and most teams, to be honest) can always be relied upon to throw in one of those every now and again.

If any club were to react by sacking their coach in Roos' position they would have rocks in their head. All coaches have gone through tougher times but you find out who can really coach by letting them work their way through it.

Look at what was being said about Bomber Thompson two years ago - and now look at him. How about Daniher with his "up and down Dees"? Or Pagan who was a genius 10 weeks ago and now is in charge of the worst team in the comp.

[Nolie]

Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
I think Malcolm Blight would be one option (assuming he is not certifiable), but there are others. When is Malthouse's contract up? What about Lee Matthews? Totally left of field...Kevin Sheedy.

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I can't believe you people are talking up these old farts.
Sydney needs the abovenamed people like a hole in the head.

Like others have said about this thread - what a complete waste of time.

Roos does not need replacing - and if he was for heaven's sake get some young blood. An Alistair Clarkson, even Wayne Brittain (ex Carlton) or Peter Rohdes (ex Western Bulldogs). The latter were good coaches. They , like Roos, just "don't have the cattle".

By the way one of Blight's Premierships with Adelaide was a fluke. It was more to do with the Macintyre system for the finals rather than his coaching. Adelaide should never have made that final. Under the present more fairer system they wouldn't have made it .

[Legs Akimbo]

Liz, agree to an extent but the difference here is the way the team is playing. Just look at some of the stats being thrown around recently with number of scoring shots, etc etc. I don't believe Roos should be chopped, but many people, myself included, just don't like the way he is making the team play. Quite frankly, it is boring. He needs to reappraise the situation or others will do it for him.

I go to the football to enjoy a spectacle. I like to watch players enjoy themselves and play with flair. I want to watch young players given the opportunity to play footy, not follow a 'game plan' which is resembles keepings off meets Twister.

What's the point?

Brisbane, Grand-finalists last year have blooded ten new players this year. That's hope. We with a self-described 'average' list, yet we keep guys 4 years in the reserves without playing a senior game. Point? look at the list and ask whether it will deliver in the next 4 years and then ask yourself what is the benefit of playing defensive ugly football to minimise the chance of a blow-out against better teams.

This is called death of a thousand cuts and a lot of people who know a lot about footy, are starting to ask what are the better alternatives.

Roos should be paying attention. My favourite recent quote of his was how different things look on the inside than the outside. He said that from the inside looking out, but perhaps he aught to just go and sit in the stands and watch and see what it looks like from the outside in.

I will climb off the soapbox now.

[Tuesday]

Oh, cringe! It really irks me when people call for the head of a coach midseason for the underperformance of a team. It's a cheap option.

Paul Roos is going to stay put. I firmly believe a coach should remain with the team until the team's campaign is over. As they say, a captain goes down with his ship. That said, I am not predicting in any way, shape or form the Swans are sinking [even with Saturday night's efforts], but FFS, give him a chance! There are so many things that need to synch in a game and if one aspect is off, you couch potatoes start screaming for his head. Have you ever tried it yourself??? It's damn hard work, and that's not even at an elite level.

Widescale changes do not happen overnight. Let him continue the season, then, if still dissatisfied, then sit down and discuss an alternative rationally.

Remember: there's more than one person behind a team.

[Legs Akimbo]

Tuesday, wake up, it's Wednesday.

It's not the 'ends' that is pissing people off it's the means. We play the ugliest footy in the competition (go on deny it) and yet we have won just 5 games.

I want to be ENTERTAINED!

[Nolie]

This thread has really given me the "irritates".

For the gurus who have put forward names like Blight, Malthouse, Sheedy, Wallace etc - haven't you missed one of the so-called "super coaches" - that is Dennis Pagan?
Why hasn't his name been bandied about? Paid $700,000 a year to turn around the Blues. What has happened? Naff all. The same would happen to Sydney if you got in any of those old crocs.

This thread - calling for a coach change - is just so pointless as to be laughable.