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  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #16
    Originally posted by satchmopugdog
    He is one of that group of afl level players who still jerk their head down to watch the ball onto their boot. The really good kicks such as Stewart Dew barely have to look at their foot as it is instinctive. But I would have Kirk over Dew anytime.
    Hall is very noticeable doing the jerk down, when short passing. Looks funny if anything, as long as the kick is effective.

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    • Legs Akimbo
      Grand Poobah
      • Apr 2005
      • 2809

      #17
      I think his kicking is okay, but his handpassing is outstanding. Considering he is the one getting the ball out more often than not, there is nothing wrong with that.

      He has good vision and knows what is going on around him.
      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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      • Matt79
        Bring it on!
        • Sep 2004
        • 3143

        #18
        Kirky certainly looks awkward when he kicks but he tends to hit more targets then some others in the side.

        The funny thing is, purely from observation, he tends to be a fairly accurate shot on goal.
        Swannies for life!

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        • mocaholic
          Regular in the Side
          • Oct 2003
          • 575

          #19
          Originally posted by Mike_B
          He definitely doesn't have the best kicking skills around, but generally can hit a target. The issue he has is speed of the ball through the air (not a lot of pace on his kick) and the fact he can't keep a ball just above head head over about 40m or so (say in the mould of Jude Bolton's pass to BBBH after Tadhg's bump off Fev, run and handball in the 1st qtr on Sat). Having said that, I don't cringe when he gets the ball, because generally speaking, he is a pretty good decision-maker when it comes to disposal, so that partly makes up for that lack of penetration on his kicks.

          Unfortunately for the Swans, alot of our midfielders don't have really penetrating kicks, and that, IMHO is an area that really needs improvement if we are to make the most of our potent forward line.
          Good post.

          Kirky is accurate to 30 - 35m (yes, they're generally floaters), and is well aware of his deficiencies in this regard. He NEVER just whacks it on the boot - his decision making is first class which is why I'm never too concerned when he gets the footy. Compare that with Crouch, Mathews, Schneids, Monty, B1, (although improving), Fosdike, and even Leapin' & Tiger to an extent.
          Insert Your Life [HERE]

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          • Mike_B
            Peyow Peyow
            • Jan 2003
            • 6267

            #20
            Originally posted by Matt79
            The funny thing is, purely from observation, he tends to be a fairly accurate shot on goal.
            Career record of 47 goals 32. So just under the 60% mark.

            I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

            If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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            • giant
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2005
              • 4731

              #21
              Kirk's problem I think is that he leans back rather than forward when he kicks it. Agree with the suggestion that this is an issue with a number of our MF so it was great to see B1's scintallating pass to BBB in Q1 on Saturday - u'd luv to see more of it.

              Our best kicks into the fwd 50 are currently absent in Willo & our much maligned ex-captn Stuey.

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              • Mike_B
                Peyow Peyow
                • Jan 2003
                • 6267

                #22
                Originally posted by giant
                Our best kicks into the fwd 50 are currently absent in Willo & our much maligned ex-captn Stuey.
                Stuey has actually lost a lot of the penetration on his kick in recent times. Might be related to his injury, but his kicking this year was nowhere near as powerful as what it was even last year.

                I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #23
                  J Bolton has the potential to be one of the best kicks inside 50 - witness the superb pass to Hall - however he also has the potential to be one of our worst.

                  This is one of the key issues with our side - the Jeckyll and Hyde nature of the players and team.

                  Kirk is one of the few who is pretty consistent.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • Jeffers1984
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4564

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mike_B
                    If he has no left foot, I'd hate to know what you think of his right! After all, he is a left footer.
                    Nah Wil meant Kirky uses his middle foot..get it? HAHAHAHA...ahh i laugh. hmmm
                    Last edited by Jeffers1984; 8 June 2005, 12:46 PM.
                    Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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                    • Wil
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 619

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mike_B
                      If he has no left foot, I'd hate to know what you think of his right! After all, he is a left footer.
                      Haha. You know, I have a reasonable grasp of who is left footed and who is right footed, but I never see Kirk kick the ball enough to remember what foot he is..

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                      • Matt79
                        Bring it on!
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 3143

                        #26
                        Originally posted by giant
                        Kirk's problem I think is that he leans back rather than forward when he kicks it. .
                        Sounds just like Schauble when he handpasses the footy. He definately looks awkward when handpassing!
                        Swannies for life!

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                        • Mike_B
                          Peyow Peyow
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 6267

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Wil
                          Haha. You know, I have a reasonable grasp of who is left footed and who is right footed, but I never see Kirk kick the ball enough to remember what foot he is..
                          Off the top of my head, left footers in our team would be:

                          O'Keefe
                          Maxfield
                          Schneider
                          Barry
                          Kirk
                          Buchanan
                          Malceski

                          Not sure about some of the guys who haven't played seniors though.

                          I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                          If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                          • Bexl
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 817

                            #28
                            One think I like about Kirk is he generaly gets the ball moving forward quickly.
                            If under pressure he gets a quick kick forward which puts other sides back lines under pressure. Too many of our players stuff around with it too much.

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                            • giant
                              Veterans List
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4731

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Mike_B
                              Off the top of my head, left footers in our team would be:

                              O'Keefe
                              Maxfield
                              Schneider
                              Barry
                              Kirk
                              Buchanan
                              Malceski

                              Not sure about some of the guys who haven't played seniors though.
                              I understand Crouch & Kennelly are "left footers" too

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                              • satchmopugdog
                                Bandicoots ears
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 3691

                                #30
                                Yea but.... no but...... left footers of another variety. Just like the Pope when he plays...he's left foot. What position would he play?
                                "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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