Boys will be boys

[giant]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
I mainly see things through the bottom of a beer bottle, sitting on my arse. As for theorists, I hate them all the same, though have a soft spot for Jean Baudrillard (particularly For a Critique of the Political Economy of the Sign which I really should read in French as I think Charles Levin tends to rob that which he translates of some of its poetic, dare I say whimsical, characteristics). I count Derrida's Of Grammatology amongst the most inluential books of the French "post-structuralists" though found the man rather difficult to take. (You want an example of NWs, spend some time in the acad?mie ). Deleuze and Guattari make a few interesting observations but really I am an old fashioned thinker and would probably most align myself with the thinkers of the Frankfurt school - there is, of course, no poetry after Auschwitz.

I once went to a seminar with both Baudrillard & Umberto Eco. Baudrillard was one of the most obnoxious w@nkers I've ever encountered - of course, I would've been disappointed if it had been otherwise. Eco, btw, was charming. Cultural stereotypes in the flesh!

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by giant
I once went to a seminar with both Baudrillard & Umberto Eco. Baudrillard was one of the most obnoxious w@nkers I've ever encountered - of course, I would've been disappointed if it had been otherwise. Eco, btw, was charming. Cultural stereotypes in the flesh!

I am glad Eco was a good fella. I remember more of his novels, esp Foucault's Pendulum, than his writing on semiotics. I am not surprised about Baudrillard (are you sure it was the real Baudrillard, not just some simulation). Sometimes I think they think they have to live up to the stereotype, or they will be disregarded as illegitimate.

[NMWBloods]

Sorry to go lowbrow, but does anyone else think of the Simpsons when the read the title of this thread?

[giant]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Sorry to go lowbrow, but does anyone else think of the Simpsons when the read the title of this thread?

Not in this instance, which is pretty unusual coz I normally think about the Simpsons all the time.

[satchmopugdog]

Doh

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by giant
Not in this instance, which is pretty unusual coz I normally think about the Simpsons all the time.

Do you recall the episode?

Just as Judge Harm is ready to bang her gavel, Judge Schneider comes back from his fishing trip and declares a verdict of "boys will be boys," dismissing the case.

http://www.thesimpsons.com/episode_guide/1302.htm

[mocaholic]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
I mainly see things through the bottom of a beer bottle, sitting on my arse. As for theorists, I hate them all the same, though have a soft spot for Jean Baudrillard (particularly For a Critique of the Political Economy of the Sign which I really should read in French as I think Charles Levin tends to rob that which he translates of some of its poetic, dare I say whimsical, characteristics). I count Derrida's Of Grammatology amongst the most inluential books of the French "post-structuralists" though found the man rather difficult to take. (You want an example of NWs, spend some time in the acad?mie ). Deleuze and Guattari make a few interesting observations but really I am an old fashioned thinker and would probably most align myself with the thinkers of the Frankfurt school - there is, of course, no poetry after Auschwitz.

By crikey we're getting deep. Pythonesque even. Bruce is in charge Hegelian philosophy, Bruce there is in charge of the sheep dip crackatube.

I have spent the last two years trying to forget Derrida, Eco, Baudrillard, the Frankfurt School et al. Beer has helped in my quest.

Didn't Derrida die (nice alliteration) earlier this year? But that wouldn't be such a big thing as so many other people have died that we acknowledge the old in with the new. Or something like that. Or was that Eco? Or a Pseudo Eco? (Sorry.)