hey, where are the anti Benny mob?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by chammond
Drew a reasonable conclusion.

Expressed no outrageous opinions.

Haha - I think drawing the conclusion that all of Mathews' critics are dickheads is not reasonable and is rather outrageous!

[chammond]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Haha - I think drawing the conclusion that all of Mathews' critics are dickheads is not reasonable and is rather outrageous!

But surely that's your conclusion, not mine?

I merely identified some options . . . it's you that made the choice.

[NMWBloods]

And you didn't try to nominate your vote with the words "highly respected" and with a mention of their years in the role...

[redunderthebed]

ENOUGH!!!
Please ,this generally emotional and vindictive attack has been nothing but demeaning to all concerned .Stop the lunatic attacks on the current captain.Seems some on this forum know better than the coach, match committee, players and outside observers.
That's fine and everyone is entitled to an opinion but please ,have an open mind and support our players.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by redunderthebed
ENOUGH!!!
Please ,this generally emotional and vindictive attack has been nothing but demeaning to all concerned .Stop the lunatic attacks on the current captain.Seems some on this forum know better than the coach, match committee, players and outside observers.
That's fine and everyone is entitled to an opinion but please ,have an open mind and support our players.

How about you just relax and take a chill pill. People are allowed to have a view on a a player and his abilities and contributions. I haven't seen that any of the recent dozen posts can be describe as "lunatic attacks" or "emotional and vindcitive". As you say yourself, "everyone is entitled to an opinion" so please let people have them. Also remember you were the one who started the thread and asked for opinions, so don't now try to stop people expressing them.

[Vivien]

Originally posted by chammond
Mathews took a while to get a permanent spot in the senior side, and he acquired a hard-core of slaggers even while he was running around in the reserves as a youngster. But once he got his chance, he's hardly missed a game in 6 or 7 seasons. Now he's nearly chalked up 150 AFL games and he's about to debut as club captain.

I'm not sure that's it's possible for a crap player to reach those milestones.

In fact I'd go so far as to say that the only conclusion that can possibly be drawn is that one of the following groups is made up of complete tools:

a) two highly respected AFL coaches and 6 years of Swans' match committees; . . . or . . . .

b) Mathews' critics.

I'm pretty sure I know which group has the more credibility.

I'd never say anyone is a tool for having an opinion, but it does seem odd that there is such incongruity between what some of the fans think of Matthews and what the club personnel think. Perhaps the conclusion to be drawn is that there is a lot of good that Ben does that we don't get to see.

[NMWBloods]

The club also thought it was a good idea to recruit Spriggs (amongst others) and to not play Goodes in the ruck and various other things. Just because a club decides to do something doesn't make it right - otherwise every team would be doing exceptionally well!

[Vivien]

True, but there's a difference between the decisions the club makes and the way the club evaluates those decisions. Choosing to recruit Spriggs and choosing not to play Goodes in the ruck is a little different to choosing to honour Matthews with B&F accolades. I'm not saying that the club is necessarily right with everything it chooses to do. I'm just commenting on the fact that there seems to be a marked difference between the way Matthews is perceived by some of the fans and the way he appears to be perceived by the club. The fact that he's been routinely named by club personnel as one of our best and most consistent performers as well as given captaincy duties suggests that the club as a whole thinks pretty highly of him. Surely that sort of respect has to be founded on something?

[Tooth Fairy]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Care to be specific on who you are referring to rather than casting your net so widely?

Cast your net widely and you increase your chances to catch more. You seem to be the first. Damn, now I'm caught

[NMWBloods]

Good to see you're keeping up with events ...

[cruiser]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I thought in this new enlightened age of RWO we weren't allowed to call people names?

Its been at least a week eh NMW?

BTW, If the subject of Mathews hair does come up, I prefer him his current crew cut.

[redunderthebed]

ok, ok i'll have to come clean here.I'm actually a relative of Benny,His mothers cousin ,Gwen was a famous banjo player from Twangaratha (near Werundungarah)and Gwennie was my first ex-wifes third cousin.We all came from Twanaratha and my real name is Red Under Mathews Bed. Benny, as it happens has a middle name.....'Underbed', our family name.Benny's sister Margo was the town tattooist and everybody in the town has the same tattoo...'we luvs ya Bennie' on our arses. So now youse all know why i don't like ya picking on my rellie,ok?Now, if youse ask me why Bennie ain't got no neck,well that's another story.