Round 15 Negatives

[stellation]

Originally posted by barry

MOL's ineffectiveness despite a dominat midfield feeding the forward line. Is he really up to holding down such a key post as FF? Does his inconsistancy put to much pressure on hall to perform week in week out.

So far this season he is averaging 2.5 goals per game and has kicked multiple goals in 9 of 12 outings. That's not too bad.

[DST]

Originally posted by liz
As for the MOL comment, I don't think that really deserves to be dignified with rebuttal.

Here here liz.

I am convinced that some on this board have no idea of the some of the more subtle points of the game of AFL.

You don't need to kick 4 goals, take 10 marks and have 15 posessions every week to contribute to the overall team success.

Just go back to last week and have a look at that mark under pressure Mark Graham took in the dying minutes of the game. May have been his only touch for the game but was worth 4 points to Richmond.

DST

[barry]

Originally posted by stellation
So far this season he is averaging 2.5 goals per game and has kicked multiple goals in 9 of 12 outings. That's not too bad.

Its not great though either. Remember thats 2.5 goals from sitting in the goal square all game. Due to his knees not running out past 50m much to generate play as other FF's do.

Liz misses the point. Will he be a premiership FF ?

[barry]

Originally posted by liz
Leo gave away a couple but look at how effective he's been all year. Look at how well our undersized defence has generally coped. And look at how he continued to rebound, something we wouldn't get from Schauble.

Leo Barry can provide just as much rebound and effectiveness playing where Dempster is.

As for the MOL comment, I don't think that really deserves to be dignified with rebuttal.

Read and think.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Originally posted by barry
Liz misses the point. Will he be a premiership FF ?

If Sydney win the premiership, then yes he will be a premiership full forward..

[stellation]

Originally posted by barry
Its not great though either. Remember thats 2.5 goals from sitting in the goal square all game. Due to his knees not running out past 50m much to generate play as other FF's do.

Surely a strong leading FF playing out to the 50 constantly on the SCG (and he does go out past the 50 anyway) would just get in the way of our CHF who plays halfway between FF and CHF?

[barry]

Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
If Sydney win the premiership, then yes he will be a premiership full forward..

If he kicks 5 in the grand final and we win, I'll eat my words, my hat, and probably ,in a state of drunken bliss, I could be dared into eating many other undersirable things.

[ugg]

From reading barry's description of MOL, you'd think that Micky just parked his arse in the goal square all game and waited for the ball to be kicked to him. MOL worked as hard as any forward last night, and I think you must be watching a totally different game. Case in point, the tackle he laid in the 2nd quarter on the wing, which led to Buchanan's punch on and eventually the Crouch goal.

[barry]

Originally posted by ugg
From reading barry's description of MOL, you'd think that Micky just parked his arse in the goal square all game and waited for the ball to be kicked to him.

You can read that out of 2 lines ??

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by barry
Its not great though either. Remember thats 2.5 goals from sitting in the goal square all game.

That's not what he does.

In any case, 2.5 goals per game translates into a fairly decent return, considering he's not really a true FF, more a FP.

[barry]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
That's not what he does.

In any case, 2.5 goals per game translates into a fairly decent return, considering he's not really a true FF, more a FP.

So who's FF then ?

[NMWBloods]

We don't really have one, but I think it should be Hall. We don't kick enough goals when he plays at CHF.

[Wil]

Originally posted by barry
So who's FF then ?

Ever seen the Swans play live? Or do you just watch on TV?

Most of the time there is no FF. Sometimes it's MOL, sometimes Hall, sometimes McVeigh, sometimes Buchanan, sometimes Jolly, sometimes O'Keefe, sometimes LRT... etc.

You should really go and see a live match sometimes, AFL is a sport that is much better than on TV

[barry]

Originally posted by Wil
Ever seen the Swans play live? Or do you just watch on TV?

Most of the time there is no FF. Sometimes it's MOL, sometimes Hall, sometimes McVeigh, sometimes Buchanan, sometimes Jolly, sometimes O'Keefe, sometimes LRT... etc.

You should really go and see a live match sometimes, AFL is a sport that is much better than on TV

Yes, No.

Hmmm, I bet Buchanan and McVeigh strike fear into the opposition's full back. So much so, they man up on MOL!.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by sharpie
The negative for this match was LRT's drop-off that seems to have continued from the last 2 weeks, after regularly improving from week to week. He must improve his marking for starters, it has been aweful recently.

While I have defended the lad vigourously on this forum, I have to agree. He should be given a spell in the 2's to recover confidence, he's done some good work but last night was bad.

Additionally Melbourne will probably be without Millar (hamstring) and possibly Holland next week, which means they'll be playing a smaller forward line excluding Neitz ~ so if we bring back Schauble we should be able to cover him.