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  • lachlanc
    On the Rookie List
    • Jul 2005
    • 92

    jason the stockbroker - don't retire!

    I think all RWO posters and Swans fans should march in delegation on the club and demand that Ball re-consider his decision to retire. His ruckwork in the last quarter against Geelong was almost as important as Davis' goals. After all, who palmed the ball down to him at that last fatal stoppage?

    Not only is Ball an excellent ruckman but our back-up rucking stocks are not fabulous. Doyle I hear you say? Dodgy knees, and really hasn't delivered yet and I personally wouldn't be confident he could fill Ball's boots. We missed out on Kositke (spelling?) from St. Kilda, who would have been great but i can't see any ready made recruits coming up over the off season. Brogan from Port would be good but now that Primus seems to be finished I'm sure they'll hang on to him. We need someone like Hudson from Adelaide to emerge from somewhere.

    Jolly has been a good pickup and its worked brilliantly this year with he and Ball in tandem, but i'm worried about him doing it by himself. Their double teaming was largely responsible, for example, for our win over the West Coast at the SCG.

    and by the way, i've made a pact with the devil. I agreed that Australia could lose the Ashes as long as the Swans won a premiership. So far, the Prince of Darkness has delivered on one of his promises, and i'm waiting on the second.
    lachlanc
  • timbo
    On the Rookie List
    • Aug 2003
    • 344

    #2
    It seemed that he wanted to annouce his retirement to spur on a victory.

    Maybe Maxfield could retire today and spur on the boys.
    Onwards to Victory!

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    • Sanecow
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Mar 2003
      • 6917

      #3
      Maybe Maxfield could retire today and spur on the boys.
      Does anybody remember the Cresswell announcement?

      demand that Ball re-consider his decision to retire
      I would love for Ball to stay on but it's quite selfish.

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      • Ruckman
        Ego alta, ergo ictus
        • Nov 2003
        • 3990

        #4
        Re: jason the stockbroker - don't retire!

        Originally posted by lachlanc
        We need someone like Hudson from Adelaide to emerge from somewhere.
        His name is Earl Shaw, and he's from the blue mountains and as of this moment he is the second best tap ruckman on the Swans list, behind big Jason.
        You really should catch a ressies/pre-season game every now and then.

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        • swanzotope
          On the Rookie List
          • Sep 2005
          • 191

          #5
          Originally posted by Sanecow
          Does anybody remember the Cresswell announcement?
          yes "do it for cressa boys"

          6 goals later the siren goes.


          not the smartest thing to say from roosy =)
          R & W 4 Life

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          • Sid
            On the Rookie List
            • Jun 2003
            • 385

            #6
            Jolly and Doyle can all ruck. Goodes can do some as well around the ground. Dont forget Eriksen, im sure we're not keeping him for no reason.
            Using hypothesis testing via confidence intervals:
            Nick Davis mark inside 50 = goal

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            • Jeffers1984
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4564

              #7
              I really don't fancy Doyle in the ruck anymore. Too injury prone for me to trust his body there. Therefore i would like to see him planted at FF to allow Mickey O to the FP (he seems to get most of his goals there, but can't nail em in front..go figure) and have Schneider roaming around Doyle's feet. Plus Doyley is a pretty sound set shot at goal and has had good success when played there for a long period of time (e.g. kicking 4 against Richmond in 2002).

              Shaw is the one to back up Big Joll next year
              Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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              • Sanecow
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Mar 2003
                • 6917

                #8
                Originally posted by Jeffers1984
                I really don't fancy Doyle in the ruck anymore. Too injury prone for me to trust his body there. Therefore i would like to see him planted at FF
                An interesting idea. I hadn't really considered him anywhere but the ruck, but it would be a shame to break him totally (which seems to be inevitable) if there is an alternative role.

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                • lachlanc
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 92

                  #9
                  agree with these thoughts re. Doyle. When I doubted his ability to make up for the loss of Ball I was also thinking of him in a forward role, where he would obviously do some rucking too. his most recent best form, before he did his knee this time, showed that he has talent as a forward. also agree re. Mickey O in the forward pocket. With Barry at CHF the structure is looking good.

                  i've never heard of this shaw, but am reassured by comments from other posters. living in the bush, one only gets to see them on the teev which is frustrating but better than nothing.
                  lachlanc

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                  • NMWBloods
                    Taking Refuge!!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15819

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jeffers1984
                    Therefore i would like to see him planted at FF
                    Yep - said this one before (makes someone "icky" IIRC) - but I think it would be a very effective option. This is essentially what Hawthorn plan to do with Everitt, 'Dogs with Darcy and WC with Gardiner.
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • Schneiderman
                      The Fourth Captain
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 1615

                      #11
                      I have this feeling that Ball retiring has as much to do with his own desire to move on, as it has to do with the club needing to clear the list to make way for some Rookie promotions. If he has been feeling sore and ready to give it up, it is good to see him retire and give someone like Shaw an opportunity.

                      I will be very sad to see him go, and he has been a phenomenal pick-up for the club considering what we have achieved with him. I hope he stays on as a ruck coach.

                      Nevertheless, I think our ruck stocks are in good shape, and if the current youngsters come good then they will be in very good shape.
                      Our Greatest Moment:

                      Saturday, 24th Sept, 2005 - 5:13pm

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                      • hammo
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5554

                        #12
                        I am sure if Ball wanted to play on then the club would accomodate him.
                        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                        • Schneiderman
                          The Fourth Captain
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 1615

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hammo
                          I am sure if Ball wanted to play on then the club would accomodate him.
                          Yes but they would double check with him that he was 100% certain he could last out the year, and the passion was as fierce as ever.
                          Our Greatest Moment:

                          Saturday, 24th Sept, 2005 - 5:13pm

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                          • Sanecow
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 6917

                            #14
                            He seemed pretty pumped at the end of the game last week.

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                            • TheHood
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1938

                              #15
                              The irony with Doyley is that most of his injuries haven't occured in the ruck, but prancing around the forward line!
                              The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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