Washout or not?

[Coastal Boy]

Calling Northern,

What's this I hear that the Killarney Vale Vs Cardiff game was cancelled last weekend due to inclement weather but the field was in good shape??????

Rumour has it when the local council was quizzed they knew nothing of the ground closure and in fact it was Cardiff/league who called the game off. Very suss when 6 of their stars were away on rep duty.

I dont mean to spread rumours, lets hear the other side of the story.

[Northern_Swan]

* The club Inspected the ground at 4pm on Sunday.
* The club then rang council's wet weather line which said "the
ground was closed as of 1pm Thursday.
* The club then rang the Council's after hours number to clarify,
as the club believed that without further rain, the ground would
be playable. The person at this number said the ground would
remain closed at least until 1pm Tuesday, as no council officers
would inspect the ground on Monday.
* The club then rang relevant clubs & the BDAFL to tell them the
game was off
* Killarney Vale at no stage offered to transfer the game to
their home ground.
* Cardiff Club officials rang the Newcastle City Council on Tuesday
to clarify the situation in an attempt to ensure that a similar
situation did not occur again (this was resolved)
* The Cardiff club had 4 players missing, not 6. It is worth noting
that Killarney Vale were missing 2 rep players also.
* The Cardiff Club was very upset with the closure of the ground,
being the first time EVER that they have had a home
game cancelled due to wet weather
* Any inference that the game was cancelled for any other
reason than the factual (i.e. Council's wet weather line) is a slur
on the committee of the Cardiff Club who work tirelessly to
ensure the club remains as the benchmark of the league. Any
inference otherwise is rumourmongering at best and I
personally thought that you were better than that Coastal.
Obviously I was wrong.

[Missy]

I wish someone told me it was cancelled. I nearly drove up from Sydney on Monday morning to watch it. Grrrrrr!

[Sanecow]

Wow, how how terrible for you almost being inconvenienced.

[Coastal Boy]

Originally posted by Northern_Swan
* The club Inspected the ground at 4pm on Sunday.
* The club then rang council's wet weather line which said "the
ground was closed as of 1pm Thursday.
* The club then rang the Council's after hours number to clarify,
as the club believed that without further rain, the ground would
be playable. The person at this number said the ground would
remain closed at least until 1pm Tuesday, as no council officers
would inspect the ground on Monday.
* The club then rang relevant clubs & the BDAFL to tell them the
game was off
* Killarney Vale at no stage offered to transfer the game to
their home ground.
* Cardiff Club officials rang the Newcastle City Council on Tuesday
to clarify the situation in an attempt to ensure that a similar
situation did not occur again (this was resolved)
* The Cardiff club had 4 players missing, not 6. It is worth noting
that Killarney Vale were missing 2 rep players also.
* The Cardiff Club was very upset with the closure of the ground,
being the first time EVER that they have had a home
game cancelled due to wet weather
* Any inference that the game was cancelled for any other
reason than the factual (i.e. Council's wet weather line) is a slur
on the committee of the Cardiff Club who work tirelessly to
ensure the club remains as the benchmark of the league. Any
inference otherwise is rumourmongering at best and I
personally thought that you were better than that Coastal.
Obviously I was wrong.

Thank you for setting straight a few points Northern. It was not my intention to slur anyone's character, just find out the other side of the story. I guess I could have just asked "on what premise was the game cancelled" but that sounds a little boring and I would think not juicy enough for this forum. I suppose I could I started with "I have heard people saying..." which may be less abrasive and make clear I am not the one thinking this.

Obviously if Cardiff has spoken to the council "in an attempt to ensure that a similar situation did not occur again" then the ground was infact playable and this will invite discussion on the topic. If there is no substance to it then nobody should take offence and it should be laughed off accordingly. I did attempt to be relatively diplomatic in my tone and apologise if it read differently, but I feel I am entitled to bring the issue up.

[ash]

What are the chances of a central coast team joining the SFL?
This would be great for league to:

Even up the number to cover
Expand to a greater region


Seems logical!

[BeeEmmAre]

Ash, for once I agree with you entirely.
It would be great for footy in Newcastle and also for Sydney if Newcastle were to join Wollongong in the SAFL.

However, what isn't great for footy is this disgraceful closure of grounds in Sydney, and now obviously in Newcastle as well.
I'm aware it is the councils that do it, and how disappointing is it that the future of football in Sydney can be so reliant on ivory tower boofheads who wouldn't know what shape a footy is, let alone give a @@@@ about their constituents who play the game.
It's a winter sport, repeat a WINTER SPORT, for @@@@'s sake, and we're in the middle of a drought.
Clubs who would normally hope for a bit of rain so the rock hard grounds have a bit of give in them are hoping it doesn't rain because the game will get called off.
IT'S NOT CRICKET you @@@@ing tools!

[Coastal Boy]

In response to BMR and Paul Roos' article in the paper the other day, Sydney has always had washed out games which I thought was primarily due to the clay-based soils we have. All other states (I think) are relatively sand-based and thus some interstate footballers have never heard of a game being cancelled.

Are people saying if the games were played on clay-based fields that they would not chop up the field badly requiring the council to pay lots of money to get the field back in shape again??? Surely that's why the council closes them, or not???

[Waugh17]

Originally posted by Northern_Swan
* The club Inspected the ground at 4pm on Sunday.
* The club then rang council's wet weather line which said "the
ground was closed as of 1pm Thursday.
* The club then rang the Council's after hours number to clarify,
as the club believed that without further rain, the ground would
be playable. The person at this number said the ground would
remain closed at least until 1pm Tuesday, as no council officers
would inspect the ground on Monday.
* The club then rang relevant clubs & the BDAFL to tell them the
game was off
* Killarney Vale at no stage offered to transfer the game to
their home ground.
* Cardiff Club officials rang the Newcastle City Council on Tuesday
to clarify the situation in an attempt to ensure that a similar
situation did not occur again (this was resolved)
* The Cardiff club had 4 players missing, not 6. It is worth noting
that Killarney Vale were missing 2 rep players also.
* The Cardiff Club was very upset with the closure of the ground,
being the first time EVER that they have had a home
game cancelled due to wet weather
* Any inference that the game was cancelled for any other
reason than the factual (i.e. Council's wet weather line) is a slur
on the committee of the Cardiff Club who work tirelessly to
ensure the club remains as the benchmark of the league. Any
inference otherwise is rumourmongering at best and I
personally thought that you were better than that Coastal.
Obviously I was wrong.

Just to clarify a few things, as far as im aware:

* Killarney Vale only had one player on rep duty; and
* Killarney Vale ground was also closed, however was never approached by Cardiff officials about transfering the game.

Never mind.

[Monty Burns2]

I'm no greenskeeper, but....

I've been told that it is to do with the type of grass up here. It's not hardy enough and when it gets ripped to bits, it has real problems growing back. That's when you're left with dust bowls towards the end of the season. I guess it's a necessary evil if you want nice green grounds to play on.

Be interesting to hear from anyone with expert knowledge on the subject.

[Northern_Swan]

Originally posted by Waugh17
Just to clarify a few things, as far as im aware:

* Killarney Vale only had one player on rep duty; and
* Killarney Vale ground was also closed, however was never approached by Cardiff officials about transfering the game.

Never mind.

The Second player i was refering to was the Under 18 player who did his shoulder and will be out for 6 weeks. He is a regular first grade starter and is among the senior side's best players. A big los for KV without a doubt.

If the Killarney Vale ground was also closed, then what the heck is all the discussion about? Obviously both council's (rightly or wrongly) had decided to close their grounds, so IMHO, there is no grounds for complaint from Killarney Vale what so ever.

[Waugh17]

Originally posted by Northern_Swan
The Second player i was refering to was the Under 18 player who did his shoulder and will be out for 6 weeks. He is a regular first grade starter and is among the senior side's best players. A big los for KV without a doubt.

If the Killarney Vale ground was also closed, then what the heck is all the discussion about? Obviously both council's (rightly or wrongly) had decided to close their grounds, so IMHO, there is no grounds for complaint from Killarney Vale what so ever.

I was unaware of the U18 player being out, but if he is one of KV best, then obviously he would have been a major loss.

As far as i am aware the KV officials have jurisdiction over the opening and closing of the ground on the weekend (and public holidays) so i would imagine they could have opened the ground if need be.

...whats done is done!!!

Eitehr way, im sure the match will be replayed at some inconvenient time!!

[Coastal Boy]

Originally posted by Northern_Swan
The Second player i was refering to was the Under 18 player who did his shoulder and will be out for 6 weeks. He is a regular first grade starter and is among the senior side's best players. A big los for KV without a doubt.

If the Killarney Vale ground was also closed, then what the heck is all the discussion about? Obviously both council's (rightly or wrongly) had decided to close their grounds, so IMHO, there is no grounds for complaint from Killarney Vale what so ever.

The discussion was whether the council or someone else had decided the ground was closed. You cleared this up with your initial response. Not everybody I have spoken to has this same version and I am told the topic was brought up with the BDAFL. Killarney Vale are playing so poorly at present it really isnt a big issue. Nonetheless I still like the thought that everything is above board.