Umpires

[orange_maggot]

I know I have opened myself up here but, what do we all think of the standard. I personally think that there are 15 or so that are reasonable but after that it does drop off a lot meaning that the lower grades suffer.

[YoungKanga]

in honesty the standard for first grade is fair to middling, but i agree ur point about the lower grade umpires.......the last game of the year i played with the ressies against wests at wagner comin back from broken ribs just for a run...id have to say the umpires on that day...were no joke the worst id ever had.....throughout all my years of footy. DISGRACEFUL


In terms of improvement with higher grade umpires just need more consistency with everythin.........a good umpired game is one which u forget there even there.

[orange_maggot]

Yeah ive just looked at who the umpires were, there not the greatest, but SFA finals were on that week and your game from memory was 2nd last vs last i think. But with the consistency thing there is a crop of 8-10 younger guys coming through that show a bit, but consistency is hard to teach especially with the way rules are supposed to be interpreted.

[Rafters]

Re: Umpires

Originally posted by orange_maggot
I know I have opened myself up here but, what do we all think of the standard. I personally think that there are 15 or so that are reasonable but after that it does drop off a lot meaning that the lower grades suffer.

Being a bit harsh on them ... give them a break til at least round 6 before having a go at their collective ability!!

Having umpired on Sunday in the International Rules day I can vouch that it is very hard to umpire a match solo as you are not in the best position to adjucate at all times & the pace of the game can be pretty quick (especially when you are scorekeeper & timekeeper). Something that may look obvious on the sideline can easily be missed. I suppose it is also a matter of picking up stuff that isn't seen from the sideline because of the different angles. It was also hard to make sure that you didn't get in the way of players.

** RECOMMENDATION ** every player in the comp should have to umpire at least one quarter of football during the year and only then will they get an appreciation of the hard task it truly is & what pressure that the umpie is under if a wrong decision is made.

In Sydney I believe that more umpie numbers are needed for each match - but I think we have to be realistic & admit that we won't see 3 umpires in every grade in every division every weekend for a whole year for quite some time.

I found it pretty myopic as well that players have the idiotic sense to cause blame on an umpie's error - in fact I blew up a few times & sledged a few players back and told them to have a good hard look at their own game as the reason why they were losing.

Still in my 320 odd games of senior footy I can't remember losing one game because of an umpiring decision - lost a lot because of poor skill error & poor decision making by players & poor tactics by coaches and the occasional loss due to individual brilliance by an opponent.

[The Spoiler]

Originally posted by orange_maggot
Yeah ive just looked at who the umpires were, there not the greatest, but SFA finals were on that week and your game from memory was 2nd last vs last i think. But with the consistency thing there is a crop of 8-10 younger guys coming through that show a bit, but consistency is hard to teach especially with the way rules are supposed to be interpreted.

Thank you Anton.

[GoEagles]

Originally posted by YoungKanga
in honesty the standard for first grade is fair to middling, but i agree ur point about the lower grade umpires.......the last game of the year i played with the ressies against wests at wagner comin back from broken ribs just for a run...id have to say the umpires on that day...were no joke the worst id ever had.....throughout all my years of footy. DISGRACEFUL


In terms of improvement with higher grade umpires just need more consistency with everythin.........a good umpired game is one which u forget there even there.

Obviously the senior boys told you about the umpire standard in the ones youngkanga......

The old coming back from a rib injury you reckon hahahaha

[ash]

Only losing teams worry about the umpires!

They all do a great job and without them there would be no game.

Maybe it would be more appropriate for clubs to teach their players the rules.

[NorthShoreAngel]

some are good and you also have your bad ones

[orange_maggot]

Originally posted by The Spoiler
Thank you Anton.

No one deserves to be called that!

[orange_maggot]

Re: Re: Umpires

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rafters
[B]Being a bit harsh on them ... give them a break til at least round 6 before having a go at their collective ability!!


** RECOMMENDATION ** every player in the comp should have to umpire at least one quarter of football during the year and only then will they get an appreciation of the hard task it truly is & what pressure that the umpire is under if a wrong decision is made.



Im not being that harsh i'am one of them, but it is just the truth.

Would love to make players do that or make them come down to training and train us with and do some coaching and see how many know the rules.

[Rafters]

Thanks Graham.

[orange_maggot]

Originally posted by Rafters
Thanks Graham.

Don't deserve that either. I'm just one of the middle of the road umpires.

[YoungKanga]

Originally posted by GoEagles
Obviously the senior boys told you about the umpire standard in the ones youngkanga......

The old coming back from a rib injury you reckon hahahaha

hahaha ur a funny bastard GoEagles....it was actually captured on fox footy when i broke my ribs and the bloke got 3 weeks....but ay u seem to know everythin so i wont challenge ur knowledge...

[Key Forward]

You must be an absolute idiot GoEagles! You have people on this thread commenting on the standards of umpires in SAFL and you get on here and swipe a young bloke. The standard of SAFL umpires is ordinary at times take it from someone who has played in Sydney for the past 8 years. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the fact they give up their own time to do something they most probabley enjoy, however they make stupid mistakes which frustrates players. Players need to learn to get the umpires onside by not gobbing off giving them a spray and get on with playing footy. Players will impact a game more than an umpire and let's not forget players make mistakes too. If a player thinks they can do a better job than an umpire, stop playing footy and become one.

[TheBlanket]

Originally posted by Key Forward
You must be an absolute idiot GoEagles! You have people on this thread commenting on the standards of umpires in SAFL and you get on here and swipe a young bloke. The standard of SAFL umpires is ordinary at times take it from someone who has played in Sydney for the past 8 years. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the fact they give up their own time to do something they most probabley enjoy, however they make stupid mistakes which frustrates players. Players need to learn to get the umpires onside by not gobbing off giving them a spray and get on with playing footy. Players will impact a game more than an umpire and let's not forget players make mistakes too. If a player thinks they can do a better job than an umpire, stop playing footy and become one.

You make a good point there. Like you said as frustrating as it is sometimes, its best to bite your tongue and get on with playing footy. Bad decisions will always be made in a game. I think it was youngkanga who said that a well umpired game is where you hardly notice they are there, which is true but doesn't happen enough.

Will be very interesting to see how the umps go about policing the new head over the footy rule. In my opinion its only going to get more frustrating for players. What does everyone think?