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  • Coastal Boy
    Regular in the Side
    • Nov 2003
    • 516

    #16
    Let me play devils advocate here. What sort of deliberation would a club have with the council to keep a ground open? Should not the club always say 'every game is important so please leave the ground open.' Thus it is always councils decision. Those who posted that their club has an input into the ground usage give me an example of when you swayed the council to leave the ground open because I want to know why the same reason would not be used the next wet weather weekend.

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    • Rafters
      aka Mr Taxman
      • Mar 2003
      • 441

      #17
      I have been at clubs when it was "convenient" to decide either way eg cancel when a loss was probable ... and conversely play under all circumstances when a win (and percentage bump) was probable. Unfortunately judgment gets clouded when table position is on the line.
      See me run a marathon again as a leprechaun?

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      • BeeEmmAre
        Commentary Team Captain
        • Aug 2005
        • 2509

        #18
        Originally posted by Coastal Boy
        Let me play devils advocate here. What sort of deliberation would a club have with the council to keep a ground open? Should not the club always say 'every game is important so please leave the ground open.' Thus it is always councils decision. Those who posted that their club has an input into the ground usage give me an example of when you swayed the council to leave the ground open because I want to know why the same reason would not be used the next wet weather weekend.
        The highlighted part of your quote is exactly what we say, and will always say, every single time as long as I am involved.
        As I said before, it simply doesn't matter who you play against, you want to play a winter sport regardless of the conditions.
        I grew playing in everything from rock hard grounds to knee deep mud, from baking heat to freezing cold and pouring rain, and never once would I say 'what are we doing here?'
        Our ground hasn't been closed in the two years we've had the agreement, although we've moved to the spare ground on three occasions that I can remember.
        By asking me to give you an example it shows that you didn't necessarily read what I said before - which I've repeated above.
        To make it perfectly clear:
        I Will Not Be Responsible For Closing An Australian Rules Football Ground, Regardless Of The Conditions, The Opponent, Or Either Club's Position On The Ladder. Ever.
        "It's up to the rest of the players in the room to make a new batch of premiership players next year," Adam Goodes, triple Bob Skilton Medallist, October 7, 2011.

        YOU BETCHA!!!!!!

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        • Norris Lurker
          Almost Football Legend
          • Jan 2003
          • 2973

          #19
          Neither side would have wanted Saturday's match called off - both sides on 3-3 with a spot in the top 5 up for grabs. I'm sure both clubs would have been desperate to play, and North Shore would have told the council that; but the council decided to close the ground anyway 2 hours before the first game was due to start.

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          • Coastal Boy
            Regular in the Side
            • Nov 2003
            • 516

            #20
            BMR, your quote:

            I don't know the situation at Gore Hill, but at Bensons Lane we (Nor-West Jets) have an agreement with the Hawkesbury Sports Council that allows us to make the decision on whether we play or not, on the proviso that we are responsible for any damage that may be done.

            Combining this with you last post I thus conclude Bensons Lane is never closed or you have not expressed the situation as it is. No problemo.

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            • Pekay
              Well retired, still sore
              • Sep 2004
              • 2134

              #21
              The amount of water of the wet weather ground at Bensons was amazing,just by sight alone,most councils would've closed it to any sport,but as Jonty said,the council made the ground for such conditions to protect the wickets on the main oval,a good investment for them and us. You will only find Bensons Lane no 2-the main oval we train on-closed for training,as for some inexplicable reason it was last night,however had No 3-the all weather ground- been lit up which it will soon,we wouldn't have had a problem. It is always open regardless of any weather. I hope i haven't jinxed myself now.

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              • Doormat
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Jan 2009
                • 212

                #22
                Lockage please Norris

                Drip
                Originally posted by Pekay
                The amount of water of the wet weather ground at Bensons was amazing,just by sight alone,most councils would've closed it to any sport,but as Jonty said,the council made the ground for such conditions to protect the wickets on the main oval,a good investment for them and us. You will only find Bensons Lane no 2-the main oval we train on-closed for training,as for some inexplicable reason it was last night,however had No 3-the all weather ground- been lit up which it will soon,we wouldn't have had a problem. It is always open regardless of any weather. I hope i haven't jinxed myself now.

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                • Offal
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2007
                  • 173

                  #23
                  Credit where it's due

                  Originally posted by Pekay
                  The amount of water of the wet weather ground at Bensons was amazing,just by sight alone,most councils would've closed it to any sport,but as Jonty said,the council made the ground for such conditions to protect the wickets on the main oval,a good investment for them and us. You will only find Bensons Lane no 2-the main oval we train on-closed for training,as for some inexplicable reason it was last night,however had No 3-the all weather ground- been lit up which it will soon,we wouldn't have had a problem. It is always open regardless of any weather. I hope i haven't jinxed myself now.
                  The Jets outfit should be given credit where due. In a past life working for the state governing body and with no grounds available for a junior football carnival due to foul weather, the Jets came to the rescue and hosted the carnival at Benson's Lane calling on club volunteers from afar in what turned out to be a successful and enjoyable day.

                  Well done Jets.

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                  • Pekay
                    Well retired, still sore
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 2134

                    #24
                    Was waiting for that Doormat. But if you knew who your father was, you'd show me more respect.

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                    • BeeEmmAre
                      Commentary Team Captain
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2509

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Coastal Boy
                      BMR, your quote:

                      I don't know the situation at Gore Hill, but at Bensons Lane we (Nor-West Jets) have an agreement with the Hawkesbury Sports Council that allows us to make the decision on whether we play or not, on the proviso that we are responsible for any damage that may be done.

                      Combining this with you last post I thus conclude Bensons Lane is never closed or you have not expressed the situation as it is. No problemo.

                      What Pekay said.

                      We haven't had a washout since the arrangement came into place at the start of last season, and we don't envisage one happening in the future because of our back up ground.
                      "It's up to the rest of the players in the room to make a new batch of premiership players next year," Adam Goodes, triple Bob Skilton Medallist, October 7, 2011.

                      YOU BETCHA!!!!!!

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                      • Doped Youth
                        at umpire training
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 48

                        #26
                        Word on any ground closures for round 10 as of yet?

                        would be a shame if there were as most home clubs seem to be hosting a special day

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                        • BeeEmmAre
                          Commentary Team Captain
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2509

                          #27
                          It looks like Charles McLaughlin will be closed for Holroyd-Parramatta's matches.
                          Bensons Lane and Wrights Reserve look the most likely replacement options.
                          "It's up to the rest of the players in the room to make a new batch of premiership players next year," Adam Goodes, triple Bob Skilton Medallist, October 7, 2011.

                          YOU BETCHA!!!!!!

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                          • Norris Lurker
                            Almost Football Legend
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2973

                            #28
                            Picken Oval is closed, Wests v Campbelltown's new venue to be determined. Also Riverview is off. Still a few blanks on the Sydney AFL website.
                            These councils piss me off sometimes with their ground closures, but it's the way it is and we're all stuck with it.
                            Last edited by Norris Lurker; 19 June 2009, 01:17 PM.

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                            • michaelvettas
                              SAFLPhotos.com.au
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 50

                              #29
                              um west camp is at henson tomorrow
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