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  • premiers05
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    • Jun 2005
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    Why is NSW footy weak

    In a recent discussion regarding the swans reserves, I expressed the opinion that, to promote the code in NSW, it would be better for the swans reserves to play local sydney/nsw teams. My thought being the games could be advertised, people could watch high quality games without having to pay the kind of money needed to watch the swans.
    I was told quick smart that the sydney/nsw teams weren't good enough to play the swans reserves. That is they are not at as high a level as the Canberra team. My question is simply is this true and if they are not good enough, why not?
    If it is true, could we or should we try and change it.
    There is no spoon
  • Midfield
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    • Apr 2009
    • 196

    #2
    Originally posted by premiers05
    In a recent discussion regarding the swans reserves, I expressed the opinion that, to promote the code in NSW, it would be better for the swans reserves to play local sydney/nsw teams. My thought being the games could be advertised, people could watch high quality games without having to pay the kind of money needed to watch the swans.
    I was told quick smart that the sydney/nsw teams weren't good enough to play the swans reserves. That is they are not at as high a level as the Canberra team. My question is simply is this true and if they are not good enough, why not?
    If it is true, could we or should we try and change it.
    My question is simply is this true: Yes (club wise. The elite players of both comps are much the same)

    if they are not good enough, why not?: Money

    If it is true, could we or should we try and change it: We should. Most of the SFL clubs need support (from the afl) to generate alternate revenue streams (some of the Canberra clubs have league clubs which finance their operations) and increase sponsorship. The more successful SFL clubs are those who do this the best.

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    • laughingnome
      Amateur Statsman
      • Jul 2006
      • 1624

      #3
      So it is simply a question of money to get better players, either by buying them from interstate or better fostering talent? Are there no other factors in this equation?
      10100111001 ;-)

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      • Pace To Burn
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        • Jul 2007
        • 748

        #4
        Originally posted by laughingnome
        So it is simply a question of money to get better players, either by buying them from interstate or better fostering talent? Are there no other factors in this equation?
        Yes mate. When we were playing in the canberra comp in the mid 90s we spent around 60-70K on players, Ainslies budget was around 250K. They spend around 50-60K just on a player coach as well as pay guys 800-1000 a game, so do the likes of Queenbeyan etc
        The edge is not the limit, It's just the starting point...

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        • laughingnome
          Amateur Statsman
          • Jul 2006
          • 1624

          #5
          Perhaps the Canberra League isn't the best to compare against though. With no "A-Level" club (ie AFL team) based there the clubs like Ainslie have done well enough from those living in Canberra and didn't need to market their clubs to the large number of Victorians and Southies living there for work. If my research is correct the ACT was almost soley Australian Rules territory prior to the Canberra Raiders setting up shop.

          What I want to know is how the QAFL has managed to build a competition strong enough that a full-blooded Brisbane Reserves team recieves stiff competition from the likes of Southport, Redland and Mornington. As I write this Brisbane sits 5th (of 10) with 7 wins 4 losses and only percentage ahead of Mt Gravatt.

          If money is the only issue, how is it that the Queensland Clubs have it and the Sydney clubs - some of which have been in the competition since 1903 - don't? I ask this on the assumption that similar factors would affect both leagues (playing third fiddle behind both rugby codes, for example).
          10100111001 ;-)

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          • Pace To Burn
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            • Jul 2007
            • 748

            #6
            Originally posted by laughingnome
            Perhaps the Canberra League isn't the best to compare against though. With no "A-Level" club (ie AFL team) based there the clubs like Ainslie have done well enough from those living in Canberra and didn't need to market their clubs to the large number of Victorians and Southies living there for work. If my research is correct the ACT was almost soley Australian Rules territory prior to the Canberra Raiders setting up shop.

            What I want to know is how the QAFL has managed to build a competition strong enough that a full-blooded Brisbane Reserves team recieves stiff competition from the likes of Southport, Redland and Mornington. As I write this Brisbane sits 5th (of 10) with 7 wins 4 losses and only percentage ahead of Mt Gravatt.

            If money is the only issue, how is it that the Queensland Clubs have it and the Sydney clubs - some of which have been in the competition since 1903 - don't? I ask this on the assumption that similar factors would affect both leagues (playing third fiddle behind both rugby codes, for example).
            Same reason. Southports club is nearly as big as Panthers or Parramatta Leagues. Plus in Qld soccer is almost non-exsistent, so you either play league or Afl. A mate of mines son plays under 8s for Southport and they have 8 sides in that agegroup just at their club, bloody amazing
            The edge is not the limit, It's just the starting point...

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            • BeeEmmAre
              Commentary Team Captain
              • Aug 2005
              • 2509

              #7
              Originally posted by Pace To Burn
              Same reason. Southports club is nearly as big as Panthers or Parramatta Leagues. Plus in Qld soccer is almost non-exsistent, so you either play league or Afl. A mate of mines son plays under 8s for Southport and they have 8 sides in that agegroup just at their club, bloody amazing
              True.
              Even Labrador (just down the road from Southport) have a licensed club which would be similar to Wests, and they are usually down the ladder a bit. I've been to Southport Sharks and it definitely rivals Panthers for size - it has over 40,000 members!
              Take a look here if you want proof.
              "It's up to the rest of the players in the room to make a new batch of premiership players next year," Adam Goodes, triple Bob Skilton Medallist, October 7, 2011.

              YOU BETCHA!!!!!!

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              • Doped Youth
                at umpire training
                • Jan 2009
                • 48

                #8
                Even Labrador (just down the road from Southport) have a licensed club which would be similar to Wests, and they are usually down the ladder a bit. I've been to Southport Sharks and it definitely rivals Panthers for size - it has over 40,000 members!
                Take a look here if you want proof.
                You're right BMR. The Sharks club looks great BUT, i had a quick look at some match reports and fagboy Jarjouras name popped up. So it sucks to be them. give me my little @@@@ty clubhouse without that dickhead any day

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                • RogueSwan
                  McVeigh for Brownlow
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 4602

                  #9
                  Is it because of Victorian sea changers moving to QLD? So, with an obvious generalisation, they would be more likely to follow Aussie Rules than other codes.
                  "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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