Forfeits

[The Purse]

Surely the league must be needing to stamp out the number of forfeits, seems to be increasing.

Another one for the weekend already with C/town U/18's pulling out.

Is there a fine system in place for a forfeit?

[Mug Punter]

Surely the league must be needing to stamp out the number of forfeits, seems to be increasing.

Another one for the weekend already with C/town U/18's pulling out.

Is there a fine system in place for a forfeit?

This is @@@@ing ridiculous but punishing the clubs surely isn't going the be the solution.

We clearly have a problem getting the U18s on the paddock. Why not return to the U19 under-age system? It worked for years and years before and might make it easier for clubs to field a side.

[The Purse]

Agreed, fining wouldnt solve it, but there has to be penalties for this, it causes not only there team to miss a game but a team they are playing, depending where the game is played, lost revenue from canteen sales, gate sales if the club charges.

Definately poor management by the clubs in question, but the league needs to take a stand, whether it is Under 19's who knows but forfeits they just hurt the game.

[Norris Lurker]

We haven't (touch wood) had any forfeits in any of the open age divisions, but it's been a problem in the Under 18s, particularly in the Challenge Cup. It was mentioned in another thread that Penrith's Under 18s have only got on the field to play one game so far this year, through no fault of their own.

But it's just not good enoough that it's happening. I don't know the logistics of whether this is feasible or a realistic option; but rather than advising of a forfeit, a team struggling for numbers should perhaps send out an SOS call to get permit players in for the weekend. I'm sure there are players at other clubs who aren't getting a game who would jump at the chance to go on loan for a weekend.

[The Purse]

SOS is a good idea, no points on offer for team fielding that team but a game gets played.

Has happened in challenge cup, but this is premier now

[Mug Punter]

Sydney is allegedly big enough to sustain two AFL teams (or three even if you listen to that peanut Sheedy) but a city of 5 million cannot put 200 underage players on the paddock each weekend.

Please discuss......

[Norris Lurker]

Let them play for points. The players you'll get from a last-minute SOS call won't be superstars, they will be the ones who weren't picked for their own clubs. But it's got to be better than forfeiting.

[tara]

Agreed, fining wouldnt solve it, but there has to be penalties for this, it causes not only there team to miss a game but a team they are playing, depending where the game is played, lost revenue from canteen sales, gate sales if the club charges.

Definately poor management by the clubs in question, but the league needs to take a stand, whether it is Under 19's who knows but forfeits they just hurt the game.

To make a statement as definately poor management suggests your knowledge is poor.

Whilst Im not a fan of Campbelltown if you know anything about the juniors in the area you would realise just how hard it is in our area to find kids, the under 16s competition is almost non existent.

[tara]

Let them play for points. The players you'll get from a last-minute SOS call won't be superstars, they will be the ones who weren't picked for their own clubs. But it's got to be better than forfeiting.

Really - we have fielded a team each week but on two occasions it could be argued as to what club we actually played.

[Pekay]

Sydney is allegedly big enough to sustain two AFL teams (or three even if you listen to that peanut Sheedy) but a city of 5 million cannot put 200 underage players on the paddock each weekend.

Please discuss......

Can see a lot of people saying " I told you so" when GWS doesn't deliver. Having said that, I will sign up for a membership. But two teams, not enough support, unless they (GWS) play out of Blacktown.

[The Purse]

To make a statement as definately poor management suggests your knowledge is poor.

Whilst Im not a fan of Campbelltown if you know anything about the juniors in the area you would realise just how hard it is in our area to find kids, the under 16s competition is almost non existent.

Know area , not intimately, but...... whilst it may be hard, is it good to have a team in comp forfeiting, no matter how hard it is if you dont think you will get numbers dont put a team in.

The league needs to work on this just as much as the clubs in question. It is poor management, if it was good there wouldnt be forfeits or very few of them, however they are increasing. It is poor management of any club who forfeits and the league who seemingly dont do too much to try help solve this particular problem.

[Hawknik]

Purse, are you in Club Management at your club? I would guess not by your comment.

Agree with Tara here, you can not necessarily blame the club, whilst they are involved and need to take some repsonibility, you need to look in the whole context - for such a large area, why are kids not wanting to play U18's???
It is easy, AFL heirarchy focus on Auskick, this stops at U18's, plain and simple, it is then entirely up to each Club (who all have no paid personell) to make sure AFL kids flow into senior footy. NSWAFL try, but they have no real focus as their KPI's with AFL HQ is on Auskick. Simple.

To sit on the sidelines and have a go at the Club, Purse, is a bit rich.

And yes, there are fines in Club Championship points which indirectly is cash at the end of the year.

[Ken Oath]

Young lads these days are too lazy to get off their arse and away from the tv.

[Hawknik]

KenOath to that

[beameup]

It is correct to an extent but we have some other major impacts that simply reflect where society has gone. Lots more irregular working hours which impact ontraining but also lots of retailers opening all day Saturday and Sunday. With pressures on finances at a family level teenagers want phones with data plans, cars, clothes and heaps of alcohol which all costs money and the work on offer clashes with sport.

So they make a choice to work