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It's a worry when Uni people cannot count to 18. Syd Uni lost all there points yesterday i believe in their 18's due to too many on the field. Must have forgotten their abacus
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Careful. Now someone from the uni will tell you that the plural of abacus is in fact abacii. -
Ouch! That would hurt to have a count so late, especially if they were well up at the time.
I've seen a couple of senior games where teams had their scores wiped after a count. Back in my first year of doing the RWO reports, East Coast had their score erased against St George; and a few years later St George were on the offending end against North Shore. And there was the incident in that final at Bruce Purser last year when a count was called but the umpires ruled the numbers were in order.
It's a harsh punishment, but only the blatant cases get caught - it requires the opposition captain to notice and bring it to the umpire's attention before the offending team has a chance to put it right. In some ways it's an unfair rule, because a breach in the last minute is penalised far more than a breach in the first minute. But unless we can somehow find someone pedantic with an orange flag to watch the interchange area at every game in every division, we're stuck with it.
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I'm shattered for them.
Despite a final scoreline of 1.0 (6), there are still 19 goals listed on the website.
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We played them last year at Greygums. They had two cameramen, a runner, two water runners, a physio, a wad of coaches with clipboards and a few more supporting staff. Problem was they couldn't provide a club umpire and as no official umpire was appointed, our clubbie was the only one officiating.
No wonder they beat us by 100+. Must have been that 19th player on the field that won it for them. Oh if only we knew.Comment
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I wonder if they are considering the option of legal action to allow them 19 on the field in future if caught?
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Haters gonna hate.Comment
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It's an interesting grey area - whether goals kicked before falling foul of a player count should still count as part of a player's stats, even though the goals don't count on the scoreboard.
Could you imagine the confusion if a player kicked the ton for a season and then his team had their score wiped. Would he have to kick his 100th for the season all over again?
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No grey area as I see it Norris.
If the scoreboard is wiped, it is and (AFAIK) always has been only the scoreboard that is affected. Individual stats, goals and League medal votes still count as normal."It's up to the rest of the players in the room to make a new batch of premiership players next year," Adam Goodes, triple Bob Skilton Medallist, October 7, 2011.
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Seeing how the thread is U18s have a look at the ladder. Four teams on 9 wins and all with different %. A combination of forfeits, rain wash out and rejigged draw means that I cannot understand how the % is obtained. Assuming a forfeit for is a win helps but teams have no longer played everyone twice or so it seems. Penno must be thanking the GWS draw that the Riverview team they will play this week will be very different to the one they just played or they would probably miss the finals.
Other teams will be thankful as well as Riverview in the finals might upset a few apple carts.
The Bendigo paper advises that GWS will not be playing TAC Cup finals so all those boys become available subject to the AFL ruling on eligibility. Not sure what that is yet other than that they have changed their mind. Probably a very open finals series in Premier CupComment
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The percentage at the final column is the match ratio.
In a comp where all teams play the same number of games (eg Prem Div or Div 1) the points per win system is used, because having played the same number of games it is considered to be a level playing field for all clubs (notwithstanding the fact that all clubs may not necessarily play each other the same amount of times, eg Div 4).
Once teams play a different number of games, the points system isn't used and the match ratio (ie percentage of games won compared to games played) is used.
In the U18 Premier Cup, some sides have played 13, some 14 and one 15 games. So the match ratio system is used. Under that system, for the top 4 -
North Shore - Won 10, Won 2 by Forfeit = 12 wins; Games played (also including Forfeits) = 14; therefore 12 wins out of 14 games as a percentage = 85.71 match ratio
East Coast Eagles - 11 wins out of 14 games, percentage = 78.57 match ratio
Sydney Uni - 10 wins out of 14 games, percentage = 71.43 match ratio
St George - 9 wins out of 13 games, percentage = 69.23 match ratio
Bear in mind that the ladders on Sporting Pulse are a little deceptive, the "W" figure represents wins on the field only. You need to add the "W" figure to the "FF" figure (forfeits for) to get the total wins by the club. So when you were looking at the ladder (prior to the current round), not all clubs would have been sitting on 9 wins as you thought.Last edited by mountainsofpain; 15 August 2010, 08:28 PM.Comment
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Read the Sydney AFL rule book and you will see that the players get the credit of the goals even if they lose there scoreLast edited by snow leopard; 16 August 2010, 06:59 AM.Comment
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