NEAFL x 2 initiations?

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  • chatovadafloor
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    • Jun 2011
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    #16
    Yes... Billy Birmingham is a legend.

    Originally posted by Big Al
    You're a 12th Man fan eh?? Great name!

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    • Hard Times
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      • Dec 2007
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      #17
      Confirmation reaching the media.
      Link below.

      AFL Sydney clubs to join NEAFL - World Footy News

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      • UTSBatman
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        • Sep 2009
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        #18
        It would seem a little silly if they weren't able to have a PD side as well - big jump from Div 1 to Premier, let alone Div 1 to NEAFL. What would the reason be behind not allowing ECE and Syd Uni to step up?
        In every game there is going to be a cross-road, and when you get to that cross-road you either step up, or you step down!

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        • ugg
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          • Jan 2003
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          #19
          I don't think that was the original question.
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          • Hard Times
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            • Dec 2007
            • 24

            #20
            Originally posted by Oscar
            Does CentreBet have a market on this question?
            Are you suggesting AFL accepts the need for a high standard Reserve comp for NEAFL and ECE will remain in PD?

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            • The Student
              Warming the Bench
              • Dec 2008
              • 281

              #21
              Originally posted by Hard Times
              Are you suggesting AFL accepts the need for a high standard Reserve comp for NEAFL and ECE will remain in PD?
              I would suggest SU will field a team in PD next year - Reserves will go up to fill the void. You would think that both clubs would have a reasonable influx of players and depth at each club would increase. Whilst they may not be as strong as they are in PD at the moment, this would change over the coming years.

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              • First Round Pic
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                • May 2011
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                #22
                Originally posted by The Student
                I would suggest SU will field a team in PD next year - Reserves will go up to fill the void. You would think that both clubs would have a reasonable influx of players and depth at each club would increase. Whilst they may not be as strong as they are in PD at the moment, this would change over the coming years.
                Surely rather than assuming SU or EC are able to gain new players and therefore their reserves move up into Premier, we should have the same promotion relegation system as every other division. After all Manly, Southern Power and Mac uni are all ahead in div 1 at the halfway point of the season, and with the inclusion of UTS this year (despite lack of success) we could see a change in the look of Premier Division for the better

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                • Junior
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                  • Apr 2006
                  • 236

                  #23
                  I think these are extraordinary circumstances though. As UTSBatsman said above, it will be a considerable step from Premier Division to NEAFL, let alone from Div 1 to NEAFL. I'm sure St George, Cambelltown or Balmain would testify that having their reserve grade side more than one division lower than their senior side is less than ideal, and this would only be magnified when going from NEAFL to Division One. The only sensible way to structure it is to maintain a Premier Division side at both of these clubs. As Student said above, the PD teams might not be quite as dominant as they currently are (or maybe they will be) but I'm sure they will still be competitive. Pulling out my crystal ball, I would imagine that the Sydney AFL would from this point on introduce promotion and relegation to Premier Division, if it so happens that ECE or SU really struggle in PD in 2012, there are provisions in place for them to drop down to Div 1 in 2013. But to give them the best chance at being competitive in NEAFL, for the first year at least they should without doubt have a PD side as well.

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                  • ShortHalfHead
                    Senior Player
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1024

                    #24
                    I was of the understanding that originally when the NEAFL league was formed, that Syd AFL teams invited to that comp would not have a PD side in 2012.
                    Also that the PD was going to get back to 10 sides on a promotion/relegrtion system.

                    Leaves Manly, Mac Uni and Power to fight out for a PD spot next year if that is still the case.

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                    • Pekay
                      Well retired, still sore
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 2134

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ShortHalfHead
                      I was of the understanding that originally when the NEAFL league was formed, that Syd AFL teams invited to that comp would not have a PD side in 2012.
                      Also that the PD was going to get back to 10 sides on a promotion/relegrtion system.

                      Leaves Manly, Mac Uni and Power to fight out for a PD spot next year if that is still the case.
                      Manly would be too close to Shore, same as Power to St George I'd reckon, although there are clubs just as close through the divisions. Mac Uni could be the smokey if that be the case, have the facilities, resources, etc..

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                      • chatovadafloor
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                        • Jun 2011
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                        #26
                        Things change though.... I am sure the clubs invited (initiated) had some input when they put there submissions in. Also a club getting invited in doesnt necessarily have to lose any teams either???


                        Originally posted by ShortHalfHead
                        I was of the understanding that originally when the NEAFL league was formed, that Syd AFL teams invited to that comp would not have a PD side in 2012.
                        Also that the PD was going to get back to 10 sides on a promotion/relegrtion system.

                        Leaves Manly, Mac Uni and Power to fight out for a PD spot next year if that is still the case.

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                        • unconfuseme
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2009
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                          #27
                          How are these clubs going to be able to afford to play NEAFL and run their existing clubs effectively? ... if they keep a PD side, they are effectively adding the NEAFL "Team" to their current structure, and it will be separate and will rarely play at the same venue as the rest of their club, will require it's own coaches/management, hangers-on, etc, all a big strain on resources, apart from the travel ........?

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                          • First Round Pic
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                            • May 2011
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Pekay
                            Manly would be too close to Shore, same as Power to St George I'd reckon, although there are clubs just as close through the divisions. Mac Uni could be the smokey if that be the case, have the facilities, resources, etc..
                            Why does it matter whether two clubs are in close proximity to each other or not? Surely if a promotion system is put in place and a club earns the right to be promoted it shouldn't matter where the club is based

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                            • The Student
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 281

                              #29
                              Originally posted by First Round Pic
                              Why does it matter whether two clubs are in close proximity to each other or not? Surely if a promotion system is put in place and a club earns the right to be promoted it shouldn't matter where the club is based
                              The old guard of PD clubs are very protective of things. Best not upset them.

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                              • cartman48
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                                • Aug 2006
                                • 129

                                #30
                                The question of Promotion to the PD comp is more than just results though - The Sydney AFL By Laws state several items that need to be met before gaining any position in the Premier Division.

                                I would think especially Sydney Uni could maintain a competitive side in the PD and play in the NEAFL. If East Coast pick up some players for the NEAFL (Which I'm sure they will) they two would be competitive in the PD.

                                I'd be more interested in regards to rules about finals eligibility of NEAFL players in the SYdney comp????
                                Carn the Southern Power.....

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