Sydney Uni Underachievers??

[Shotties]

All this furore over a statement made, proved to be incorrect (on a singular basis, not a "collective" one) is pretty petty.

Yes, it is rather petty and it's a shame that you couldn't have just taken the statement as a whole as it was written rather than isolating one sentence out of the post in order to take a pot shots.

[Carn the Lions]

Struggling there, Shotties.

If "suiting my purpose" means pointing out an undeniable fact, I plead guilty.

All this furore over a statement made, proved to be incorrect (on a singular basis, not a "collective" one) is pretty petty.

Why not have a shot at me for disagreeing that Uni were underachievers ? Does that also suit my purpose?

Bottom line is though with Barton playing a majrity of the season, Dugmore playing a majority of the year, Mcconnochie playing finals and Mitch playing in the finals thats a very stonrg side that should have, in our mind, collected some sort of silverware.

The perception is that they dont really care about the ultimate success and just enjoy playing footy

Would this be right??

[Benchwarmer]

Can't be too tough on the Sus's. Credit where credit is due.
Again today they had another of their younger stars drafted by an AFL club in the rookie draft. You can't really say they are under achieving. This is a measure of their success.
They must be doing something right. Let's be fair.

[ShortHalfHead]

Can't be too tough on the Sus's. Credit where credit is due.
Again today they had another of their younger stars drafted by an AFL club in the rookie draft. You can't really say they are under achieving. This is a measure of their success.
They must be doing something right. Let's be fair.

Tongue in cheek, BW?

Michael Hartley from the SUS feeder club, Penrith

[unconfuseme]

Hartley from the Penrith Campus, and Witts from the St Ives Campus follow in the footsteps of Young from the Campbelltown Campus!

btw, what degrees were they studying for?

[Shotties]

Hartley from the Penrith Campus, and Witts from the St Ives Campus follow in the footsteps of Young from the Campbelltown Campus!

btw, what degrees were they studying for?

Where else did Witts play 18s football?

[unconfuseme]

So what you are saying is 12 games of u/18's Challenge Cup football with Sydney Uni is all it takes to make an AFL player?!

Your right, I dare say all of the other time spent training with Rod Carter, TPP and RAMS coaches, preparing and playng in State Trials and National carnivals, plus all the trips to the Lexus centre whilst on his Collingwood scholarship was probably just a waste of time.

In fact, I'm sure that had he just been able to play another 5 or 6 quality games of 2nd division u/18's - where half your points come from forfeits, and most of your wins are by 30+ goals against teams with no bench and stacked with u/15's and u/16's - well, he would probably have been drafted last year!!

Please, next you'll be claiming credit when the sun rises in the morning!

[Pekay]

So what you are saying is 12 games of u/18's Challenge Cup football with Sydney Uni is all it takes to make an AFL player?!

Your right, I dare say all of the other time spent training with Rod Carter, TPP and RAMS coaches, preparing and playng in State Trials and National carnivals, plus all the trips to the Lexus centre whilst on his Collingwood scholarship was probably just a waste of time.

In fact, I'm sure that had he just been able to play another 5 or 6 quality games of 2nd division u/18's - where half your points come from forfeits, and most of your wins are by 30+ goals against teams with no bench and stacked with u/15's and u/16's - well, he would probably have been drafted last year!!

Please, next you'll be claiming credit when the sun rises in the morning!

Come on now, it's common knowledge that James Hird is responsible for that...

[Shotties]

So what you are saying is 12 games of u/18's Challenge Cup football with Sydney Uni is all it takes to make an AFL player?!

No, what I'm doing is asking where else he played 18s football. It was a genuine question. I liked your lucidity and depth of reasoning in replying at 3:20 in the morning, though.

[ShortHalfHead]

Did he learn to leap at Sydney Uni?

I have a pic of him rucking against a 5'6" Penrith player in 2009witts.jpg

[Shotties]

Uh... good for you, I guess.

[Pekay]

The boy is an 80s reincarnate, clearly.......blue spray paint in lieu of shorts.

[unconfuseme]

No, what I'm doing is asking where else he played 18s football. It was a genuine question. I liked your lucidity and depth of reasoning in replying at 3:20 in the morning, though.

Apologies - based on the rest of this thread, I had assumed there must have been some abstract mathematical equation in play here to prove a theory - my bad.

No he had no other club club side for 18's that I am aware of, but, like Hartley, he did have year round access to all of the Collingwood and AFL NSW/ACT resources for 3 years.

The reality is, regardless of where they played, just based on raw talent and athleticism, both those boys were bound to end up on an AFL list, particularly in the year of a compromised draft.

Incidentally, that intense and extensive one on one coaching and mentoring was not afforded to most of the other Sydney Uni u/18's Class of 2009, who were lured away from their respective local u/18's ... I would be more curious to know where those boys are at with their football/studies now ... that would provide Benchwarmer with a true "measure of success".

PS - shift work

[unconfuseme]

... and it's good to see that Sydney Uni's "grassroots junior development" continues strongly, with every eligible Ramsgate RSL u/16 offered 5 UAI points and a pathway to the NEAFL ... bad luck for Southern Power, St George and Moorebank, the Ramsgate pathway clubs, who do actually engage in junior development activiies

[Shotties]

... and it's good to see that Sydney Uni's "grassroots junior development" continues strongly, with every eligible Ramsgate RSL u/16 offered 5 UAI points and a pathway to the NEAFL ... bad luck for Southern Power, St George and Moorebank, the Ramsgate pathway clubs, who do actually engage in junior development activiies

Neither the club nor the university can offer extra ATAR points, only the UAC can and I don't think they listen too intently to sporting club requests.

I am interested in the "actually do engage in junior development activities" statement though. Are you saying that Uni does absolutely no work with juniors or does that line lose something when read in isolation?