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  • MrTaxman
    On the Rookie List
    • Aug 2013
    • 40

    #31
    It probably it is no surprise that I have been as vocal as anyone against the decision & have revolted probably harder than anyone with revoking my sponsorship from the club. Consequently I have had some communication with the CEO today & whilst I still disagree with their decision, I can appreciate a bit more how it arose. For those that can remember, the deal is something akin to the North Shore/Orange/3 deal a decade or so ago where the third party is affiliated with the Northern Beaches region. If GWS didn't swoop, the money would have gone to other sports or kept in fat cat pockets. For the sake of 2-3 appearances & a set of jumpers the return on investment formula looks attractive. What I guess they were deficient in was having any idea what the outrage that such a deal would cause amongst clubland. To that end, I have attempted to reconcile GWS with its spiritual home today & help with the peace smoking process (for one they have Tara's phone number & email address), including providing some valuable tips in how to approach the market. It probably is fair to say that the Swans have clearly been deficient in serving the Northern Beaches market (and deserve a fair bit of flak as well), just as much as the Giants may have neglected Western Sydney. I have told the CEO that I am willing to buy him some more time but we all want to see some more results in ensuing months. Ultimately if they get it right, all will benefit. Whilst I personally am doubtful that they are going to come through with the goods, I think the potential upside deserves that they get one more chance to prove me wrong. After all, Steve Smith did in the cricket.

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    • Tim Freedman
      Warming the Bench
      • May 2008
      • 236

      #32
      2 points:

      1 - I have it on very good authority that Manly approached the Giants and asked if this deal was possible. Giants said ok. Apparently there hasn't been any other club in Western Sydney who have actually asked this same question and who has been willing to change their name to the "Giants". So now all of you can feel free to approach them

      2 - Pekay. Thanks for clearing up that this isn't Melbourne. After moving to my new area approx. 7 years ago, I had no idea that I wasn't in Melbourne anymore. I just thought that I'd moved to a busier part of town and that they replaced all the AFL grounds with rugby grounds. It all makes sense to me now.

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      • Pekay
        Well retired, still sore
        • Sep 2004
        • 2134

        #33
        Clearly with your references to how it works 'down south' you can be excused. Or can you..

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        • Footy Barista
          Warming the Bench
          • Nov 2013
          • 326

          #34
          Originally posted by Tim Freedman
          2 points:

          1 - I have it on very good authority that Manly approached the Giants and asked if this deal was possible. Giants said ok. Apparently there hasn't been any other club in Western Sydney who have actually asked this same question and who has been willing to change their name to the "Giants". So now all of you can feel free to approach them

          2 - Pekay. Thanks for clearing up that this isn't Melbourne. After moving to my new area approx. 7 years ago, I had no idea that I wasn't in Melbourne anymore. I just thought that I'd moved to a busier part of town and that they replaced all the AFL grounds with rugby grounds. It all makes sense to me now.


          Tim I have a known source inside the manly camp that assures me that gws approached the wolves in order to create a supporter base on the northern beaches and also to utilise manly beach as a recovery spot opposed to bumping into the swans at coggee I guarantee you there would be no reason for manly to approach them given the season they had last year as a club .... It's a total neglect of the wests club which is wrong but I do know that manly were approached not the other way around

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          • Footy Barista
            Warming the Bench
            • Nov 2013
            • 326

            #35
            Originally posted by Tim Freedman
            2 points:

            1 - I have it on very good authority that Manly approached the Giants and asked if this deal was possible. Giants said ok. Apparently there hasn't been any other club in Western Sydney who have actually asked this same question and who has been willing to change their name to the "Giants". So now all of you can feel free to approach them

            2 - Pekay. Thanks for clearing up that this isn't Melbourne. After moving to my new area approx. 7 years ago, I had no idea that I wasn't in Melbourne anymore. I just thought that I'd moved to a busier part of town and that they replaced all the AFL grounds with rugby grounds. It all makes sense to me now.


            Tim I have a known source inside the manly camp that assures me that gws approached the wolves in order to create a supporter base on the northern beaches and also to utilise manly beach as a recovery spot opposed to bumping into the swans at coggee I guarantee you there would be no reason for manly to approach them given the season they had last year as a club .... It's a total neglect of the wests club which is wrong but I do know that manly were approached not the other way around.... Manly took the offer on the ground s that they keep their colours

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            • tara
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2005
              • 1514

              #36
              Tim your sources are wrong.

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              • ShortHalfHead
                Senior Player
                • Dec 2008
                • 1024

                #37
                Originally posted by tara
                Tim your sources are wrong.
                Yes, Tim's sources are incorrect. It's amazing how often SHeagles people get it wrong. I've had a few lately from that side of town. Not sure if they just like lying or enjoy making things up.

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                • Tim Freedman
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2008
                  • 236

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Footy Barista
                  Tim I have a known source inside the manly camp that assures me that gws approached the wolves in order to create a supporter base on the northern beaches and also to utilise manly beach as a recovery spot opposed to bumping into the swans at coggee I guarantee you there would be no reason for manly to approach them given the season they had last year as a club .... It's a total neglect of the wests club which is wrong but I do know that manly were approached not the other way around
                  hahaha. So your trying to make me believe that GWS approached Manly Wolves AFC so that they could use Manly beach? Do they not know that they should have approached the Sea Eagles as well just to run it past them that it was ok to use the public beach.

                  I'm extremely confident in my source. But so are you so we will agree to disagree.

                  Regardless, good luck to both Manly & the Giants. Hopefully it works out to be a positive partnership

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                  • ShortHalfHead
                    Senior Player
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1024

                    #39
                    It's a fact that the Giants are in damage control over this. They're probably leaking that Manly approached them to their muppets, which they didn't, but it makes it sound a little bit more respectable, which it isn't.

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                    • Footy Barista
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 326

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tim Freedman
                      hahaha. So your trying to make me believe that GWS approached Manly Wolves AFC so that they could use Manly beach? Do they not know that they should have approached the Sea Eagles as well just to run it past them that it was ok to use the public beach.

                      I'm extremely confident in my source. But so are you so we will agree to disagree.

                      Regardless, good luck to both Manly & the Giants. Hopefully it works out to be a positive partnership


                      Agree to disagree Tim we will as my source is involved on the board at manly .... They want a supporter base on the beaches and see this as the approach in doing so ... The partnership is to get the giants name in an area outside of the west .... If manly approached gws do you think they would still keep there colours ? As I'm sure if it was on 100 percent gws terms they would want the orange present amongst the beaches

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                      • Pekay
                        Well retired, still sore
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 2134

                        #41
                        It wasn't really kept a secret last Wednesday around the sammiches at HQ. Manly's representative, who is well known around the traps, told myself and a few others that GWS approached them. I asked him again and he confirmed that manly were indeed approached.

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                        • chatovadafloor
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 231

                          #42
                          article was wrong too, many will play in their colours...

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                          • Mug Punter
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3325

                            #43
                            Originally posted by MrTaxman
                            It probably it is no surprise that I have been as vocal as anyone against the decision & have revolted probably harder than anyone with revoking my sponsorship from the club. Consequently I have had some communication with the CEO today & whilst I still disagree with their decision, I can appreciate a bit more how it arose. For those that can remember, the deal is something akin to the North Shore/Orange/3 deal a decade or so ago where the third party is affiliated with the Northern Beaches region. If GWS didn't swoop, the money would have gone to other sports or kept in fat cat pockets. For the sake of 2-3 appearances & a set of jumpers the return on investment formula looks attractive. What I guess they were deficient in was having any idea what the outrage that such a deal would cause amongst clubland. To that end, I have attempted to reconcile GWS with its spiritual home today & help with the peace smoking process (for one they have Tara's phone number & email address), including providing some valuable tips in how to approach the market. It probably is fair to say that the Swans have clearly been deficient in serving the Northern Beaches market (and deserve a fair bit of flak as well), just as much as the Giants may have neglected Western Sydney. I have told the CEO that I am willing to buy him some more time but we all want to see some more results in ensuing months. Ultimately if they get it right, all will benefit. Whilst I personally am doubtful that they are going to come through with the goods, I think the potential upside deserves that they get one more chance to prove me wrong. After all, Steve Smith did in the cricket.
                            Well we can all rest easy now that MrTaxman has taken this up at board level and resolved this on our behalf. Peace in our time due to his amazing arbitration skills. Perhaps one of the more self important posts ever seen on this board.

                            This is a dumb decision by Manly.

                            As for the impact on the Bogans, NO-ONE cares!!!! they are a club with no supporters and no soul, they are a TV club that no-one asked for and no-one will miss when they move down tro Canberra in 3-4 years...

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                            • cartman48
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 129

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Mug Punter
                              Well we can all rest easy now that MrTaxman has taken this up at board level and resolved this on our behalf. Peace in our time due to his amazing arbitration skills. Perhaps one of the more self important posts ever seen on this board.

                              This is a dumb decision by Manly.

                              As for the impact on the Bogans, NO-ONE cares!!!! they are a club with no supporters and no soul, they are a TV club that no-one asked for and no-one will miss when they move down tro Canberra in 3-4 years...
                              I must be one of the "No-Ones" you refer to - around 12000 other "No-Ones" signed up as well...... Might be a few less after this debacle sadly though..... GWS going no where, its the other Mob that are more likely to go bust when Buddy blows that knee out shortly .....
                              Carn the Southern Power.....

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                              • saviour01
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 932

                                #45
                                Originally posted by cartman48
                                I must be one of the "No-Ones" you refer to - around 12000 other "No-Ones" signed up as well...... Might be a few less after this debacle sadly though..... GWS going no where, its the other Mob that are more likely to go bust when Buddy blows that knee out shortly .....
                                10,000*

                                Aren't over half from ACT and melbourne?

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