Is the Sydney Competition the strongest it has ever been?

[ShortHalfHead]

BLK offered us jumpers for under $40. Maybe they were are cheaper brand of flannelette.

[Jupiter]

[QUOTE=Mug Punter;675941]The Student seems to have little concept of grass roots football living in his Sydney University Bubble, quite sad really that he cannot even see the idiocy of the GWS sponsorship of Manly and thinks that GWS has no responsibility to Western Sydney at all.

He really is quite hard to follow at times, his kneejerk reaction to attack everything I say sees him contradicting himself on a regular basis.

Quite bizarre logic really for such a learned fellow

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One of you is Gollum and the other is Smeagol but you are both precious.

[mountainsofpain]

Manly received no money from the Giants that's the biggest load of garbage

What a crock of crap manly got no coin u idiot

As you seem to be in the know, please fill us in on on what the Manly sponsorship is worth please?

[mountainsofpain]

I have no idea regarding $ and don't doubt physical cash wasn't involved however no one changes their identity for nix. At the very least all of their on and off field apparel would have been covered. Given its blk branded and 5 teams are involved that alone would be around the 25 k amount so I'd say the 50k figure being bandied about may have some substance.

The posters here have been around Sydney footy long enough to know that clubs just don't give up their identity for nothing. Especially a club like Manly.

I didn't think the sponsorship would have been as little as $2k and a set of jumpers, but the figure of $50k surprised me. But when you think about it, it's not as outrageous as it sounds.

The Giants deliberately dropped a steaming turd on the good football people out west with their sponsorship of Manly. In doing so, they showed up all the feel good PR of being a western Sydney club as utterly fraudulent.

[Footy Barista]

The posters here have been around Sydney footy long enough to know that clubs just don't give up their identity for nothing. Especially a club like Manly.

I didn't think the sponsorship would have been as little as $2k and a set of jumpers, but the figure of $50k surprised me. But when you think about it, it's not as outrageous as it sounds.

The Giants deliberately dropped a steaming turd on the good football people out west with their sponsorship of Manly. In doing so, they showed up all the feel good PR of being a western Sydney club as utterly fraudulent.

A case of promising a lot and delivering nothing ...... A full set of jumpers is just about it to be honest from what I gather the afl alliance was an appeal to attract more sponsorship to the club but no real change as a result would be surprised if it continues in the future

[mountainsofpain]

A case of promising a lot and delivering nothing ...... A full set of jumpers is just about it to be honest from what I gather the afl alliance was an appeal to attract more sponsorship to the club but no real change as a result would be surprised if it continues in the future

I was after a monetary value of the sponsorship if you could.

As I said, it would be significant. Manly doesn't ditch 40 plus years of success under that name and in those colours for nothing.

"A full set of jumpers??". Hmmm...................

[tara]

A case of promising a lot and delivering nothing ...... A full set of jumpers is just about it to be honest from what I gather the afl alliance was an appeal to attract more sponsorship to the club but no real change as a result would be surprised if it continues in the future

I find that hard to believe to be honest simply because they dont strike me as a club run by imbeciles intent on throwing money away.

If all they received is a set of jumpers then they would have spent 20K of their own money rebranding themselves. Shorts, Singlets, Club Polos, Hoodies, Sports bags. BLK hoodies cost $70-80 ea depending on the qty ordered.

GWS operate on a Jan-Dec Financial year when reporting their financials to ASIC.

GWS COGS in relation to merchandise in 2013 and 2014 was $432,885 and $647,259 respectively which makes sense as they are growing year to year or at least you would hope they are. What is interesting is that in 2013 they wrote of $353,708 in merchandise expenses yet nothing in 2014. Given 2013 was they year of rebranding local clubs one wonders if this expense was related.

[Footy Barista]

I find that hard to believe to be honest simply because they dont strike me as a club run by imbeciles intent on throwing money away.

If all they received is a set of jumpers then they would have spent 20K of their own money rebranding themselves. Shorts, Singlets, Club Polos, Hoodies, Sports bags. BLK hoodies cost $70-80 ea depending on the qty ordered.

GWS operate on a Jan-Dec Financial year when reporting their financials to ASIC.

GWS COGS in relation to merchandise in 2013 and 2014 was $432,885 and $647,259 respectively which makes sense as they are growing year to year or at least you would hope they are. What is interesting is that in 2013 they wrote of $353,708 in merchandise expenses yet nothing in 2014. Given 2013 was they year of rebranding local clubs one wonders if this expense was related.

hoodies singlets polo and all that Jazz were paid for by the club those hoodies have last years sponsor on them for which manly do not have anymore the singlets are funded by another sponsor and are in fact last years believe what u want but

[mountainsofpain]

hoodies singlets polo and all that Jazz were paid for by the club those hoodies have last years sponsor on them for which manly do not have anymore the singlets are funded by another sponsor and are in fact last years believe what u want but

So are you able to give us a total monetary value of the sponsorship please?

[Footy Barista]

I was after a monetary value of the sponsorship if you could.

As I said, it would be significant. Manly doesn't ditch 40 plus years of success under that name and in those colours for nothing.

"A full set of jumpers??". Hmmm...................

I don't know a monetary value I'm not on the board my mate plays for them .... As I said idiot it was a case of promising a lot and delivering little ..... i also said sponsorship opportunities have a read mate and think about it I suggest u sit in at the Agm for manly next season if it means so much to u

[mountainsofpain]

I don't know a monetary value I'm not on the board my mate plays for them .... As I said idiot it was a case of promising a lot and delivering little ..... i also said sponsorship opportunities have a read mate and think about it I suggest u sit in at the Agm for manly next season if it means so much to u

So you know nothing at all about it then. Which is fine. I'll try and find out from informed sources.

It only concerns me because GWS (fraudulently) promoted itself as a western Sydney club - not a club to support the western Sydney hating crowd on the northern beaches.

[Mug Punter]

I don't know a monetary value I'm not on the board my mate plays for them .... As I said idiot it was a case of promising a lot and delivering little ..... i also said sponsorship opportunities have a read mate and think about it I suggest u sit in at the Agm for manly next season if it means so much to u

So rude.....

[Footy Barista]

Sponsorship opportunities, access to facilities a few times during the preseason, a matchday experience at spotless & kevin sheedy came to an a sportsman lunch i think...no physical cash
I dont know the specifics but believe that one of the major sponsors was GWS introduced

It was not what the players were promised when they agreed to the change as the original offer was reneged after the Syd AFL / NSW AFL blocked it which did

[Mug Punter]

Sponsorship opportunities, access to facilities a few times during the preseason, a matchday experience at spotless & kevin sheedy came to an a sportsman lunch i think...no physical cash
I dont know the specifics but believe that one of the major sponsors was GWS introduced

It was not what the players were promised when they agreed to the change as the original offer was reneged after the Syd AFL / NSW AFL blocked it which did

So they sold their history for an evening with Kevin Sheedy and a matchday experience that none of them would have attended?

I suspect you know as much of the exact details as the rest of us, that is zero.

But having said that Tara's viewpoint that Manly aren't a club run by idiots is a good starting point. I cannot believe they'd sell out for so little. A full kit across five grades (jumpers, shorts, socks, t shirts etc) is not to be sneezed at and I'd think that would have to all be thrown in for nothing.

Then again, you're on the committee at Manly and there's suddenly $15-20,000 that you don't need to find the next season. Even SFL clubs are run pretty much on the breadline....

I can see how it would have been too hard for Manly to refuse but it still is completely idiotic from a GWS perspective, no matter how sound a strategy The Student seems to think it is...

[unconfuseme]

Wow, if this information is right, it would hardly seem to have been the financial coupe that could have been expected for giving up ones Northern beaches dignity to align with the Great unwashed of Western Sydney - although I do believe that Quakers Hill is now officially a part of the Lower North Shore!

... maybe the Wolves board were not as clever as they seem. Could be time for a shake out ... or a tax audit!