RWO Game Day Thread - Round 1 - April 1-2

[saviour01]

Didnt balmain win a comp somewhere? Did they invest in local football (not including the cash they paid?)

[Tom Wills]

Didnt balmain win a comp somewhere? Did they invest in local football (not including the cash they paid?)

Nope - Balmain runner up in 2011 and 2012 paying money. Last win 1998 - outside my 10 year window.

[The Student]

Like any other student athlete, players have to apply for a scholarship. If they are not studying they aren't eligible, obviously. Is this news to you that we have a scholarship program?

And there it is. After all these years we have the admission that Players are given Scholarships to play for Syd Uni. And of course the Uni only gives them out for their academic ability not because the Footy club wants them to play their HAHAHAHA

[The Student]

Take it up with the clubs who wanted the system scrapped, champ. If you think that the whole thing has been a long con to get a few players into Prenier Division then I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying.

Wonder how many they are giving away... sounds like most of those who would have been "drafted" got one.

[Giants]

A couple of points on a few items raised.

1. I have no issue with the whole of the Baulko NEAFL squad staying on play Prems. This issue I have is, who was (and is) getting paid, when they owe a debt to the league. Simple issue is if you owe money to Mum and Dad don't go shouting your mates beers; particularly under their nose.

2. Syd Uni - can give away as many scholarships as you want - to whoever you want. But if you want other clubs to support you and then you have not one of the drafted NEAFL players in 2016 play for another Premier division club (resulting in it being scrapped this year) but then have 9 NEAFL listed players in Prems against Wests it is the exactly the way to create animosity against your club. This issue is consistent across most of top level competitions where players at WAFL level, VFL, or SANFL nominate another club for when they do not get a game. Again you have done such a good job in recent years at garnishing other Premier division clubs support I can only image what West thought of you after Saturday's game, and I am sure it was not support.

3. FIFO - paid players - who gives a Shxt - if you have the resources best of luck to you. In the last 10 years the only "money" premiership was the Baulko 2016 one. All others the others, including East Coasts 2009 to 2011 three-peat have been the result of the investment in local football development.

Thoughts?

Mike Beardsley FIFO for ECE back in 2009 to 2011 for a year or two from memory?

[The Student]

Do you think that we were deliberately selecting blokes in NEAFL to stop them playing Premier Division? Or perhaps those players were in the best 22 every week. Who knows? Your bizarre theory may have merit.

So your suggestion is that every player on the NEAFL list whether they are Xavier Richards recruited from the Swans or Tim Barton who has been playing with us for ten seasons should be arbitrarily shuffled off to say, St George or Pennant Hills. What SANFL or WAFL clubs have players not being selected for the ones then going to another club that they are in competition with?

You do realize that eight of the listed NEAFL players on the weekend played Premier Division for Uni last year right? Half of the list have home clubs that they are eligible to play for. This year we have made concessions to the clubs to allow scholarship holders to play for clubs of their choice. There is no gun to their head. But I suspect nobody is interested in facts - much easier to sit behind a keyboard and fire off accusations.

A couple of points on a few items raised.

2. Syd Uni - can give away as many scholarships as you want - to whoever you want. But if you want other clubs to support you and then you have not one of the drafted NEAFL players in 2016 play for another Premier division club (resulting in it being scrapped this year) but then have 9 NEAFL listed players in Prems against Wests it is the exactly the way to create animosity against your club. This issue is consistent across most of top level competitions where players at WAFL level, VFL, or SANFL nominate another club for when they do not get a game. Again you have done such a good job in recent years at garnishing other Premier division clubs support I can only image what West thought of you after Saturday's game, and I am sure it was not support.

[saviour01]

Take it up with the clubs who wanted the system scrapped, champ. If you think that the whole thing has been a long con to get a few players into Prenier Division then I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying.

No NEAFL players to clubs in 2016. In 2017 round 1 9 play with you. How many this week?

[The Student]

You do understand that there were only eight players eligible to play for other clubs last year, right? Vicic, Krochmal, Sierakowski etc are Uni players and were in Prem Div regularly last year so I don't see what your point is.

No NEAFL players to clubs in 2016. In 2017 round 1 9 play with you. How many this week?

[saviour01]

I do. How many of them played elsewhere in 2016? How many of those in round 1 would have if the rule wasnt deemed a waste of time since it never happened in 2016?

[The Student]

One - a ruckman that came in from the Northern Blues. Are you saying that we should've not picked blokes last year so that they could play AFL Sydney for other clubs? I don't really understand what you would expect us to do, recruits from interstate and the AFL are generally going to play NEAFL.

How many players on scholarships played for their home clubs last week? Hint: more than one.

I do. How many of them played elsewhere in 2016? How many of those in round 1 would have if the rule wasnt deemed a waste of time since it never happened in 2016?

[saviour01]

No, im saying its bs that in 16 rounds in 2016 it didnt happen once and then when the rule is gone it start happening in round 1 2017.

[Tim Freedman]

No, im saying its bs that in 16 rounds in 2016 it didnt happen once and then when the rule is gone it start happening in round 1 2017.

Why does it bother you that much Saviour?

Personally, if I was a coach of a Prem division side I wouldn't want to play a player that I don't know and have had nothing to do with previously who is sent back to play with my side. It's not great for a clubs culture IMO if you pick a player from SU who hasn't been training with you, doesn't know your system, doesn't know your players or coaches and who doesn't really want to be there. I would prefer to play a young bloke who deserves it through his commitment etc.

[The Student]

We are talking about one player from this weekend past. We are injury free at the moment and it was Round 1. Obviously we were going to have a full list to pick from. I can't find the mini draft info from 2016 but of the 2015 players, four were at the club last year - all of whom played NEAFL all season. When would you have expected them to play PD? Should we have liaised with the clubs and asked if we were allowed to select them?

We agreed with the clubs that we would allow any scholarship holder who otherwise would've qualified for Uni i.e. is a student there to play for a club of their choice. Several opted to. That is our concession. Anyone who played a single PD or U19s game for any other club last year is not eligible to play PD for Uni, irrespective of whether they are a student. So we have given up plenty - the fact that SUSF and the Uni are providing scholarships for blokes to play at other clubs is more than enough. I don't see many other clubs providing tuition costs, gym memberships etc for blokes to play elsewhere. When St.George start financially supporting players to wear another jumper you can get back to me.

No, im saying its bs that in 16 rounds in 2016 it didnt happen once and then when the rule is gone it start happening in round 1 2017.

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I would've thought this was the case but it seems you could say the sky was blue and people on here would argue with you.

Why does it bother you that much Saviour?

Personally, if I was a coach of a Prem division side I wouldn't want to play a player that I don't know and have had nothing to do with previously who is sent back to play with my side. It's not great for a clubs culture IMO if you pick a player from SU who hasn't been training with you, doesn't know your system, doesn't know your players or coaches and who doesn't really want to be there. I would prefer to play a young bloke who deserves it through his commitment etc.

[saviour01]

Quality players find a way to do well. Austin Lucy killed it for us in prems in 2015 and so did Dylan Addison in div 4 last year despite not knowing our div 4 structures.

Be interesting to see if it become a regular occurance where "drafted" players are in syd uni prems.

[The Student]

Is that what this is about - you wanted to see Austin play for St.George last week? After looking at the team sheet he didn't play PD at all so you can give it a rest now. If you miss him so much I can get him to sign a jumper for you or something.

Surprised that an ex AFL player did well in Div 4 and the intricate structures of very low level park footy weren't too much for him.

Quality players find a way to do well. Austin Lucy killed it for us in prems in 2015 and so did Dylan Addison in div 4 last year despite not knowing our div 4 structures.

Be interesting to see if it become a regular occurance where "drafted" players are in syd uni prems.