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  • Pmcc2911
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2013
    • 516

    #91
    Hey tara, tried pm but received this error message
    "tara has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space"

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    • Jupiter
      Warming the Bench
      • Sep 2010
      • 243

      #92
      Originally posted by tara
      Anyone else rolling over laughing. No mention of how to stop clubs rorting. I read it and cant see anywhere a mechanism will be put in place to stop it. Its basically sfl sfa again. 10 years of study and no solutions or even slightly innovative suggestions. People think qld is afls war they cant win. Sydney afl has gone backwards in the last 25 years. The population has exploded and especially in the west - the comp at the same time might have grown but not in proportion and has going backwards in western sydney.
      I agree. No fit for purpose leadership/ideas from league blow ins and as a result they come to even good ideas like Divisionalisation too slowly and now revert back with little imagination. Generally the league just react to the latest winds and tweak while volunteers drown. I'd add that the other side of the equation is that that behaviour from the league will not change in a market like this while clubs sit in their individual corners taking shots at each other/blaming one another for this or that perceived advantage or disadvantage - all the while mostly only being concerned with their slice of the "pie" / success (and of course totally understand why, its natural). Hats off to the clubs who push forward, get promoted, form alliances, start U/19s, work with their juniors etc despite all of the reasons not to, you are the real engine room of the code locally
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      • 5yearplan
        Warming the Bench
        • Sep 2016
        • 272

        #93
        I would think there will be a lot of clubs talking at present, proposed changes from all discussions arent going down well, being told and not consulted properly in a process I am hearing is a lot of the issue. Eg: I know of 5 prems clubs 100% which are adament 16 a side in 19's shouldnt be in place, the other clubs may agree but 5 are 100% against it.

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        • Tom Wills
          Warming the Bench
          • May 2008
          • 478

          #94
          Originally posted by Jupiter
          I agree. No fit for purpose leadership/ideas from league blow ins and as a result they come to even good ideas like Divisionalisation too slowly and now revert back with little imagination. Generally the league just react to the latest winds and tweak while volunteers drown. I'd add that the other side of the equation is that that behaviour from the league will not change in a market like this while clubs sit in their individual corners taking shots at each other/blaming one another for this or that perceived advantage or disadvantage - all the while mostly only being concerned with their slice of the "pie" / success (and of course totally understand why, its natural). Hats off to the clubs who push forward, get promoted, form alliances, start U/19s, work with their juniors etc despite all of the reasons not to, you are the real engine room of the code locally
          .
          hi Jupiter, I don't know what club you are involved with, if any, but this is one of the best and most accurate posts I have seen in years. Well done with both your comments about HQ and the clubs themselves.

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          • pickup01
            On the Rookie List
            • Aug 2015
            • 10

            #95
            Originally posted by 5yearplan
            I would think there will be a lot of clubs talking at present, proposed changes from all discussions arent going down well, being told and not consulted properly in a process I am hearing is a lot of the issue. Eg: I know of 5 prems clubs 100% which are adament 16 a side in 19's shouldnt be in place, the other clubs may agree but 5 are 100% against it.
            I could understand senior clubs not wanting the 19's to go 16 a side. But I don't think there would be a junior club against it.
            If there were enough y19 players in the market place , then clubs wouldn't have to pillage the u17 in the juniors. Hence weakening that comp and all age groups downwards and seeing retention at an all time low.
            Having a foot in both camps I see the effects year in year out.


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            • Pekay
              Well retired, still sore
              • Sep 2004
              • 2134

              #96
              Maybe the league will push to create a western sydney 'super club' with access to top facilities and the use of development officers paid for by the league to attract players and get word out into schools....and maybe those officers will pull on a super club guernsey on a Saturday.

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              • GallopingGoanna
                On the Rookie List
                • Jul 2014
                • 38

                #97
                Originally posted by Pekay
                Maybe the league will push to create a western sydney 'super club' with access to top facilities and the use of development officers paid for by the league to attract players and get word out into schools....and maybe those officers will pull on a super club guernsey on a Saturday.
                Sounds like a Magic idea

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                • pickup01
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 10

                  #98
                  Originally posted by GallopingGoanna
                  Sounds like a Magic idea
                  I know that the league wouldn't do this while it guttered an established club though.
                  That would be MACshocking.


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                  • Pekay
                    Well retired, still sore
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 2134

                    #99
                    Or cannibalising a RAMshackle local Under 18s squad.

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                    • Pmcc2911
                      Regular in the Side
                      • May 2013
                      • 516

                      If a Prems club cant raise 22 players to play 19's every week, they shouldn't be in Prems.
                      I can understand if the Div 2 teams go to 16 a side plus bench (the bench should allow 6 players, so as not to penalise those clubs that can get full numbers).

                      With regard to 17y/o playing 19's a couple, of points:
                      The academy pushes the 17 y/o to play 19's
                      There are some kids just love playing footy and love playing 19's on Sat and 17's on sunday.
                      It helps as a bit if a recruitment tool to get a couple of 17's playing the odd game in 19's, gives them a taste.
                      When the fielding of a 19's team depends week in week out on playing 6-7 x 17's, then that is not good for either team.
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                      • Footy Barista
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 326

                        Originally posted by Pmcc2911
                        If a Prems club cant raise 22 players to play 19's every week, they shouldn't be in Prems.
                        I can understand if the Div 2 teams go to 16 a side plus bench (the bench should allow 6 players, so as not to penalise those clubs that can get full numbers).

                        With regard to 17y/o playing 19's a couple, of points:
                        The academy pushes the 17 y/o to play 19's
                        There are some kids just love playing footy and love playing 19's on Sat and 17's on sunday.
                        It helps as a bit if a recruitment tool to get a couple of 17's playing the odd game in 19's, gives them a taste.
                        When the fielding of a 19's team depends week in week out on playing 6-7 x 17's, then that is not good for either team.
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                        Yawn comment

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                        • ShortHalfHead
                          Senior Player
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1024

                          It always amazes me that one of the "heartland" AFL areas of Sydney, the Eastern Suburbs, can only produce a single Under 19's team

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                          • The Runner
                            Regular in the Side
                            • May 2017
                            • 718

                            Originally posted by pickup01
                            I know that the league wouldn't do this while it guttered an established club though.
                            That would be MACshocking.


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                            Not sure what's worse.. guttered or macshocking

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                            • justabaraker
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 972

                              Love the look of the prize winner at the Jets B&F night - could it be Tiny Tim with a durry ? What could be the secret to his success this year ?

                              In the olden days, Channel 7 had "Pelaco Inquest" which was a footy panel show featuring VFL stars. As a reward for turning up, the players would be presented with a carton of Craven Filters.
                              Remember Craven Filters ?...."you've got nothing to lose but your smokers cough".

                              You've go to be really old to understand that sort of stuff.

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                              • Pekay
                                Well retired, still sore
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 2134

                                Originally posted by justabaraker
                                Love the look of the prize winner at the Jets B&F night - could it be Tiny Tim with a durry ? What could be the secret to his success this year ?

                                In the olden days, Channel 7 had "Pelaco Inquest" which was a footy panel show featuring VFL stars. As a reward for turning up, the players would be presented with a carton of Craven Filters.
                                Remember Craven Filters ?...."you've got nothing to lose but your smokers cough".

                                You've go to be really old to understand that sort of stuff.
                                That'd be Clinchy. He is a weapon, but incredibly shy. I accepted his McFarlane medal at 2014 Phelan because there was buckleys chance he was attending.

                                Did we publish a story on the B & F? I can't find anything.

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