RWO Game Day Thread - Finals Week 3 & Divisional Grand Finals - September 9-10

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  • saviour01
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2013
    • 932

    #31
    Hopefully he takes his frustrations out on UTS!

    Who from the bombers will confirm that you are in talks with Trent Stubbs? And Camden are in talks with Baker and Drinkwater?

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    • CKunde
      On the Rookie List
      • Apr 2016
      • 32

      #32
      Originally posted by The Student
      A big attraction will be the ability to play alongside GWS players like Nic Barr, Amanda Farrugia or Maddy Collier so SU, UNSW and Mac Uni have a leg up there already. The other aspect, and I don't know if there is a diplomatic way of saying this, is that the inner city clubs will always have a bigger player base because of the demographics of the area. Have a points cap all you like but that's not going to encourage people living in the inner west or wherever to go and play for Penrith.

      What would the percentage of Women's PD players that have played at a junior level? It would have to be infinitesimally small surely. Sure that will change in the coming years as AFLW grows but for now it's just women who have played other sports and start the game as an adult.
      Most of the better players have played juniors. At Sydney uni currently there's Nic Barr, Steph Walker, Erin McKinnon, Pippy Clegg, Isabella Rudolph. I don't know all the sides well enough, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and say average PD sides would have 5/22 of their best that were juniors. Minority, yes. Unremarkable, hardly.

      Basically every PD side has an AFLW player - UTS the only exception. We have Renee Tomkins, the only NSW/ACT player selected in the State of Origin. Playing with AFLW players is likely a draw, I agree, but every team offers this.

      Hence the priorities likely being the 3 I named above.

      Points system for Sydney Women's PD will be the best thing for women's football AFL NSW/ACT could do.

      Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being trialled for men's too. Introducing it would certainly remove a lot of the complaints levelled at USyd mens around the NEAFL players (whether those complaints are legitimate or not).

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      • Footy Barista
        Warming the Bench
        • Nov 2013
        • 326

        #33
        Originally posted by saviour01
        Hopefully he takes his frustrations out on UTS!

        Who from the bombers will confirm that you are in talks with Trent Stubbs? And Camden are in talks with Baker and Drinkwater?
        Haven't north shore learnt from this year buying players doesn't have a great return rate ?

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        • Clubman
          Warming the Bench
          • Mar 2017
          • 190

          #34
          Originally posted by saviour01

          Who from the bombers will confirm that you are in talks with Trent Stubbs? And Camden are in talks with Baker and Drinkwater?
          Ha Ha - you now have started on ECE again. You sould worry about your own job Mini Bus
          Earl Shaw - To Coach Parramatta Dyl Addison - To Coach St George Prems
          Have not heard about you as yet. Maybe clubs can't wait 5+ years

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          • bomber.
            Warming the Bench
            • Jan 2017
            • 163

            #35
            Originally posted by Footy Barista
            Haven't north shore learnt from this year buying players doesn't have a great return rate ?
            No-one bought in at North Shore champ. At least 3 players gave up cash to play at Gore Hill for nothing. I don't know that the club is opposed to the idea, just didn't need to do it.

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            • The Runner
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2017
              • 718

              #36
              Originally posted by bomber.
              No-one bought in at North Shore champ. At least 3 players gave up cash to play at Gore Hill for nothing. I don't know that the club is opposed to the idea, just didn't need to do it.
              Amazing what a PowerPoint presentation can do...

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              • Footy Barista
                Warming the Bench
                • Nov 2013
                • 326

                #37
                [QUOTE=bomber.;739686]No-one bought in at North Shore champ. At least 3 players gave up cash to play at Gore Hill for nothing. I don't know that the club is opposed to the idea, just didn't need to do it

                Right okay haha

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                • unconfuseme
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 681

                  #38
                  Dyl Addison has returned to his footballing roots, and should be acknowledged as a role model for every Sydney player who achieves higher honors. He is playing for the love of the game and the club, and the opportunity to play with his brother, and the Sydney AFL is better for it - to his credit, for the whole season, he has worked around his employment commitments and played for whom ever he has been asked to play - GWS NEAFL, and St George in whatever grade he could play (again around work commitments), and provided 100% commitment to every coach he has served. Like every St George player, he pays his own registration fees, or doesn't get a game. He has earned the right to play in whatever game he has the opportunity to play in. Once again, he IS a proud Dragons junior ... that's on more junior than the opposition will field come GF day in the Div 1, and one more junior than UTS will field in any game ... just sayin'

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                  • The Student
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 281

                    #39
                    Our Division One side actually has a number of players from our designated junior clubs who have since played in our 19s, but don't let facts get in the way of a good story I suppose. Spare us the fluff about the romanticism of Addison giving back to his junior club and working around employment commitments - if you think it is a noble gesture of him to parachute in for a GF when he clearly hasn't qualified other than via a loophole then good luck to you. That said, as dubious as it is, it's in the rules so fair play. Just tell it how it is, you're trying to win a flag by any means possible. It's just funny that Saints, pure as the driven snow, would be so cynical in their approach. I guess they're no better than anyone else - next you'll be telling me Santa Claus isn't real!

                    Originally posted by unconfuseme
                    Dyl Addison has returned to his footballing roots, and should be acknowledged as a role model for every Sydney player who achieves higher honors. He is playing for the love of the game and the club, and the opportunity to play with his brother, and the Sydney AFL is better for it - to his credit, for the whole season, he has worked around his employment commitments and played for whom ever he has been asked to play - GWS NEAFL, and St George in whatever grade he could play (again around work commitments), and provided 100% commitment to every coach he has served. Like every St George player, he pays his own registration fees, or doesn't get a game. He has earned the right to play in whatever game he has the opportunity to play in. Once again, he IS a proud Dragons junior ... that's on more junior than the opposition will field come GF day in the Div 1, and one more junior than UTS will field in any game ... just sayin'
                    Last edited by The Student; 13 September 2017, 07:55 AM.

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                    • unconfuseme
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 681

                      #40
                      Ironic the fuss around one player, who has played Div 4, Div 1 and Prems for his original junior club during the season, and is fully qualified to play in the games he is chosen for ... hmmm.

                      So how many will SU be playing from their NEAFL List in a Premier division GF this week? ... and how many of them are juniors?

                      Deflect all you like, people will see what SU have done for what it is and make up their own minds about it ... certainly no "romanticism" about it, hypocrisy does come to mind though ... and we wont even touch on the flow on effect that this has to every lower grade, when the NEAFL listed players push "players who have played Prems all season" out of the side ... but fair play if that is what the AFL is prepared to allow.

                      Good Luck Penno, should be a cracking game, lets hope the best team wins!

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                      • The Student
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 281

                        #41
                        He has played one Div 1 game. Answer me this - if he wasn't such a martyr and had to fulfil employment commitments (imagine that, a job interfering with footy, you should build a statue of him) would he have played those 8 NEAFL games in PD or Div 1? I think we know the answer to that. He has qualified via a loophole which will undoubtedly be closed in 2018. This is not even in dispute.

                        One player will come back from the NEAFL side from the Lions game, and guess what - he will replace another NE listed player who isn't eligible. What makes someone like Luke Vella a NEAFL player if he hasn't played a game? Because he trains with them? I assume you know that players from all clubs are able to trial in the pre-season and can go on the list, although maybe you don't because Saints have never sent anyone. The NE listed players on Saturday will have a total of about 20 NE games between them this year which is slightly more than double what the Saints Div 1 side will have. Cue outrage!

                        If you want to talk about lower grades, what effect do you reckon putting half a dozen of your obviously very good 19s into a Div 1 GF side will do when the players who are omitted go down to Div 4? Not much can be done about the three division drop given that your club only has three sides but must be nice for the guys who are new to the game to be turfed out of Div 4 for the GF. Reckon they'll be back next year?

                        Your juniors argument is a good one - I could ask how many Saints players study at your football club which makes about as much sense. Your club oversees a huge suburban area and we are based in the CBD, in an educational institution where people start at 17 or 18. We have a few affiliated junior clubs that cover a radius of about 3km from campus. The demographics of the inner city are significantly different to those of the suburbs, and so on. You are comparing apples and oranges but I suspect you know this. Or maybe you just are that stupid.

                        Truth be told nobody at SU cares what people like you think. You're uninformed and so ridiculously biased that your opinion is worthless. I mean really, you think that Dylan Addison - with one Div 1 game to his name - has legitimately qualified for a GF. Your credibility (or what little you had) just went out the window. Hope you stick around to enjoy the show on Saturday.

                        Originally posted by unconfuseme
                        Ironic the fuss around one player, who has played Div 4, Div 1 and Prems for his original junior club during the season, and is fully qualified to play in the games he is chosen for ... hmmm.

                        So how many will SU be playing from their NEAFL List in a Premier division GF this week? ... and how many of them are juniors?

                        Deflect all you like, people will see what SU have done for what it is and make up their own minds about it ... certainly no "romanticism" about it, hypocrisy does come to mind though ... and we wont even touch on the flow on effect that this has to every lower grade, when the NEAFL listed players push "players who have played Prems all season" out of the side ... but fair play if that is what the AFL is prepared to allow.

                        Good Luck Penno, should be a cracking game, lets hope the best team wins!

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                        • saviour01
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 932

                          #42
                          Only half a dozen 19s? Last i heard it was close to the full dozen.

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                          • The Student
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 281

                            #43
                            You'll have some decisions to make at the selection table tonight then won't you!

                            Originally posted by saviour01
                            Only half a dozen 19s? Last i heard it was close to the full dozen.

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                            • Clubman
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 190

                              #44
                              D Addison - played 1 game Div 1. Prems & GWS had byes What,s the rule dropping back to Div1 after playing NEAFL the week before.

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                              • The Student
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 281

                                #45
                                No drama with that.

                                I notice that the Saints Div 1 side have 20 NEAFL games between them. That's as many as our Prem Div side that we have been copping grief over. Interesting!

                                Originally posted by Clubman
                                D Addison - played 1 game Div 1. Prems & GWS had byes What,s the rule dropping back to Div1 after playing NEAFL the week before.

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