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  • Blinkers28
    Warming the Bench
    • Jul 2018
    • 256

    #76
    “Round 1” to be 19th July with a 9 or 10 round season.

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    • andreww1
      Warming the Bench
      • May 2015
      • 193

      #77
      Originally posted by Tom Wills
      Any updates from those in the know

      * With training now allowed what date will we start back
      * Any major changes other than a shorter season
      * Will there be a modified NEAFL season
      * Will a shorter season benefits some clubs more than others - ie will UTS get their interstate players (who are often here for work) to commit for 9 games and be OK

      Any updates fromr the Sydney footy landscape would be appreciated.
      NEAFL season won’t be going ahead so discussions are around how do you equitably distribute NEAFL players back in to community football within a PPS structure.


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      • 5yearplan
        Warming the Bench
        • Sep 2016
        • 272

        #78
        Originally posted by Tom Wills
        Any updates from those in the know

        * With training now allowed what date will we start back
        * Any major changes other than a shorter season
        * Will there be a modified NEAFL season
        * Will a shorter season benefits some clubs more than others - ie will UTS get their interstate players (who are often here for work) to commit for 9 games and be OK

        Any updates fromr the Sydney footy landscape would be appreciated.
        Start date they are still working on, and I have heard not all clubs think it is viable there could be some issues whether clubs think it is wise to commit, they league will be charging more per game for a shorter season than a regular season.

        No other major changes noted, but issues could be no club canteens, no showering, crowds limited. Umpires are still paid full freight.

        Talk is NEAFL gone, aligned players are aligned so would be back at their clubs, remainder will no doubt be fought over between everyone. Talk was someone threw toys out of the cot during the last president meeting about it when it was raised.

        Shorter season will benefit league , I think it will impact clubs more than if no official season was held. No season doesnt mean clubs cant work together to still play fundraise minus the massive league and umpiring costs.

        I think comms still up in the air, nothing is in concrete, NEAFL everyone sayings its dead but nothing confirmed.

        Still a lot of interesting times ahead i think

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        • Tom Wills
          Warming the Bench
          • May 2008
          • 478

          #79
          Thanks 5 year - though have to say that at this point in time we need a Peter V'landys as the leader - make a plan and then we work to it (a date). The lack of anything concrete, IMO, is making the AFL look second rate compared to the NRL.

          Who would have thought the 3 months ago we could be stating the NRL has better leadership than the AFL !!!!

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          • tara
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2005
            • 1514

            #80
            Originally posted by Tom Wills
            Thanks 5 year - though have to say that at this point in time we need a Peter V'landys as the leader - make a plan and then we work to it (a date). The lack of anything concrete, IMO, is making the AFL look second rate compared to the NRL.

            Who would have thought the 3 months ago we could be stating the NRL has better leadership than the AFL !!!!
            Less people on the field - less state restrictions to worry about. They had to push ahead regardless given their TV revenue was in doubt - Its not like crowd and memberships revenue was going to save them But I do agree the AFL did appear to be handling it poorly in terms of communicating their plans.

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            • saviour01
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2013
              • 932

              #81
              Originally posted by 5yearplan
              Shorter season will benefit league , I think it will impact clubs more than if no official season was held. No season doesnt mean clubs cant work together to still play fundraise minus the massive league and umpiring costs.
              100%

              Will clubs still be able to run with no canteen, limited (if any) club functions, potential loss of sponsors. A number of clubs have already gone bust or had to get big loans in previous years, how do they go with similar costs and less revenue? I know of a couple of soccer clubs pushing for just a write off of the 2020 season or even some gala day type events rather than the proposed 9 round no finals season.

              Does the Sydney AFL remove some of the rules around needing 2 physios for prems etc? Will there be an increase in injuries with limited training time in the lead up?

              Should Sydney AFL cost cut at head office to reduce the costs passed onto clubs. I know they stood down staff originally but surely they are back on jobkeeper.

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              • Blinkers28
                Warming the Bench
                • Jul 2018
                • 256

                #82
                EFL and NFL in Melbourne have cancelled their seasons, and they are two of the bigger comps down there.

                Wouldn’t be surprised if AFL Sydney do the same.

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                • andreww1
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2015
                  • 193

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Blinkers28
                  EFL and NFL in Melbourne have cancelled their seasons, and they are two of the bigger comps down there.

                  Wouldn’t be surprised if AFL Sydney do the same.
                  I hope not as it would be a big setback to AFL in Sydney if that happened.
                  In Melb AFL is the dominant winter sport so it will get back on its feet relatively quickly.
                  In Sydney AFL is #3 in the winter sports market and is still trying to establish itself at a community level so the work to recover would be much tougher.


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                  • Pmcc2911
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2013
                    • 516

                    #84
                    Get the feeling NSW head office are looking for an excuse to call off the season.
                    Tiffany the acting CEO was on the news tonight saying they are look for a “traditional “season, what ever that means starting in August.
                    An August start will be too late.

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                    • Jupiter
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 243

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Pmcc2911
                      Get the feeling NSW head office are looking for an excuse to call off the season.
                      Tiffany the acting CEO was on the news tonight saying they are look for a “traditional “season, what ever that means starting in August.
                      An August start will be too late.
                      Very disappointing. The rhetoric on the importance of building the code in NSW at grassroots level is being revealed as a low business (i.e. financial) priority it seems. Those with the reins for our region are weak advocates it seems and/or the AFL is run much more poorly and less sustainably than I ever would have imagined. Maybe when a date is given by government the clubs can get together and organise some sort of lower cost short comp and simply contract in some resourcing like umpires (they have the grounds, the players and the volunteers after all). It would not make much sense to fork out affiliation fees at the levels they are tapped, even pro-rata. Clubs care for members who want to play, AFL is big business dealing with their big issues, not community.

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                      • Pmcc2911
                        Regular in the Side
                        • May 2013
                        • 516

                        #86
                        Sorry misquoted above, the commentary said AFL hope to be playing “by” August.

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                        • 5yearplan
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 272

                          #87
                          Strong rumour

                          9th June more major community leagues to announce done and off for 2020

                          10th June meetings between clubs

                          One thing for sure the discussion between league, clubs and stakeholders been poor.

                          If there is no season I am confident there will be football just won’t be in the form of a official competition

                          I think by the end of next week there will be some concrete answers one way or the other

                          A August season is late, the discussion from the league about fees and costs hasn’t been explored right, clubs I have heard now don’t have near the same numbers and team nominations will vary from original submissions

                          Fingers crossed some clarity soon

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                          • Tim Freedman
                            Warming the Bench
                            • May 2008
                            • 236

                            #88
                            Originally posted by andreww1
                            I hope not as it would be a big setback to AFL in Sydney if that happened.
                            In Melb AFL is the dominant winter sport so it will get back on its feet relatively quickly.
                            In Sydney AFL is #3 in the winter sports market and is still trying to establish itself at a community level so the work to recover would be much tougher.

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                            Andrew, unsure of your history in Sydney AFL so won't comment on your level of optimism. However, I've been in and around Sydney AFL at the senior level for over 15 years and I can tell you that if we haven't established AFL at the community level by now in Sydney, then we never will.

                            In fact, in my view it has gone backwards at a rate of knots since Gary Burkinshaw left and we now have very poor, disinterested leaders in this competition and they could not give a stuff about the clubs. All you need to do is look at the complete lack of media for the last few years to prove my point. The State office have absolutely no idea what they are doing and where they should take this competition.

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                            • Tim Freedman
                              Warming the Bench
                              • May 2008
                              • 236

                              #89
                              Originally posted by 5yearplan
                              Strong rumour

                              9th June more major community leagues to announce done and off for 2020

                              10th June meetings between clubs

                              One thing for sure the discussion between league, clubs and stakeholders been poor.

                              If there is no season I am confident there will be football just won’t be in the form of a official competition

                              I think by the end of next week there will be some concrete answers one way or the other

                              A August season is late, the discussion from the league about fees and costs hasn’t been explored right, clubs I have heard now don’t have near the same numbers and team nominations will vary from original submissions

                              Fingers crossed some clarity soon
                              I really can't see how they can get a season going and more importantly how the clubs will be able to afford running teams. Without things such as canteen sales, beer sales, fundraisers etc, who the hell is going to pay for the things needed to put a team on the park every week. Physios, tape, footballs, new water bottles per player and everything else that is going to be put in place due to COVID. The list goes on. It costs a @@@@e load of money to put teams on the paddock week in and week out.

                              Sponsors are not going to front up with the same money they would normally donate for a regular season. In fact, I would suggest that it will be harder and harder to maintain sponsors with so many companies impacted by COVID. Players are also not going to want to pay full freight in playing fees or some sort of small discount.

                              There is zero chance cricket will delay their seasons to help out AFL in Sydney so if it was an August start what is the point.

                              I love footy more than most, but I would suggest canning it for 2020.

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                              • andreww1
                                Warming the Bench
                                • May 2015
                                • 193

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Tim Freedman
                                I really can't see how they can get a season going and more importantly how the clubs will be able to afford running teams. Without things such as canteen sales, beer sales, fundraisers etc, who the hell is going to pay for the things needed to put a team on the park every week. Physios, tape, footballs, new water bottles per player and everything else that is going to be put in place due to COVID. The list goes on. It costs a @@@@e load of money to put teams on the paddock week in and week out.

                                Sponsors are not going to front up with the same money they would normally donate for a regular season. In fact, I would suggest that it will be harder and harder to maintain sponsors with so many companies impacted by COVID. Players are also not going to want to pay full freight in playing fees or some sort of small discount.

                                There is zero chance cricket will delay their seasons to help out AFL in Sydney so if it was an August start what is the point.

                                I love footy more than most, but I would suggest canning it for 2020.
                                Tim, cricket has already agreed to delay their season.
                                Presidents meeting this week will revel all the details of return to play. Return to training has already started.


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