Round 4 Game Day - The Season So Far

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  • Old Puppy
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2019
    • 43

    Round 4 Game Day - The Season So Far

    North shore favourites, UTs could not get enough points to challege Su inner west easily as STG and pennO.
    Good chance for Andrew come
    Early tomorrow reserves start at 12 towers and jack keen to buy you a burger and as always even the boss will buy you a vb, if you front up oracle!
    Just on that point how’s the mail out AFL hearing the cricketer has gone back home?
    Only Henry the octopus was at his send off and was heard to say, sorry mate thanks for all your help you be fine my apprentice, I look after you. There’s way to many points to prove ????
  • Blinkers28
    Warming the Bench
    • Jul 2018
    • 256

    #2
    Southern Power seniors with one of the all time great comebacks today.
    Down 44-4 early in the 3rd quarter to beat Mac Uni 66-49.

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    • Pekay
      Well retired, still sore
      • Sep 2004
      • 2134

      #3
      Originally posted by Blinkers28
      Southern Power seniors with one of the all time great comebacks today.
      Down 44-4 early in the 3rd quarter to beat Mac Uni 66-49.
      That's pretty big - what ground?

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      • Blinkers28
        Warming the Bench
        • Jul 2018
        • 256

        #4
        Originally posted by Pekay
        That's pretty big - what ground?
        Waratah Oval

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        • mrns
          Warming the Bench
          • Apr 2016
          • 163

          #5
          Camden sitting on 22% and 12% in reserves.

          Could it be time to see a Platinum club be making a push to be promoted to premier division?

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          • Pekay
            Well retired, still sore
            • Sep 2004
            • 2134

            #6
            I could've checked that........very lazy.

            Penrith are marching on, but what's to say the same thing wouldn't happen if they went up like Camden? Was premature to send them up so early, and it is showing now.

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            • mrns
              Warming the Bench
              • Apr 2016
              • 163

              #7
              Originally posted by Pekay
              I could've checked that........very lazy.

              Penrith are marching on, but what's to say the same thing wouldn't happen if they went up like Camden? Was premature to send them up so early, and it is showing now.
              There is a need for a premium division our in Western Sydney to be successful, it is integral for the growth of the game in the area with the highest population growth. I guess my comments may be a bit early as this is by no means a 3-5 year plan, it's going to take years.

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              • Blinkers28
                Warming the Bench
                • Jul 2018
                • 256

                #8
                Originally posted by mrns
                Camden sitting on 22% and 12% in reserves.

                Could it be time to see a Platinum club be making a push to be promoted to premier division?
                Short answer ... no.

                There’s pros and cons for both Penrith or Power going up.

                If Penrith had an U19’s program with good track record, plus an upgraded facility compared to Greygums Oval (in my view), they could easily be in Prems.

                If Power weren’t located in Sutherland Shire, they could easily be in Prems.

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                • andreww1
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2015
                  • 193

                  #9
                  Shouldn’t the question being asked be “Why would any Platinum Division club want to be promoted to Premier Div?”
                  In Platinum the Penriths and Powers of that comp win premierships every few years, can keep their players happy, and don’t need to spend an exorbitant amount of time raising money to put competitive teams on the park.
                  But if they go up to Prems they start receiving 100-200 point thrashings on a regular basis, no finals let alone premierships, players start leaving, no one looks forward to match day, rego fees go up, and time spent by volunteers on sponsorship needs to lift to another level.
                  If I was at a Platinum club that is the last thing I would want.
                  Fire at will! [emoji4]


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                  • andreww1
                    Warming the Bench
                    • May 2015
                    • 193

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Old Puppy
                    North shore favourites, UTs could not get enough points to challege Su inner west easily as STG and pennO.
                    Good chance for Andrew come
                    Early tomorrow reserves start at 12 towers and jack keen to buy you a burger and as always even the boss will buy you a vb, if you front up oracle!
                    Just on that point how’s the mail out AFL hearing the cricketer has gone back home?
                    Only Henry the octopus was at his send off and was heard to say, sorry mate thanks for all your help you be fine my apprentice, I look after you. There’s way to many points to prove [emoji23]
                    You’re not making a lot of sense there Old Puppy. I suggest you only post when you are sober, or is that just the dementia kicking in?
                    But the gist of your msg is there are some at your club that want to buy me a burger? Given the loss to Norths on Sunday I suggest you hang on to your $ and buy a few more players in and send some of those local juniors back to Reserve grade.
                    Cheers!


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                    • Norris Lurker
                      Almost Football Legend
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2972

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mrns
                      There is a need for a premium division our in Western Sydney to be successful, it is integral for the growth of the game in the area with the highest population growth. I guess my comments may be a bit early as this is by no means a 3-5 year plan, it's going to take years.
                      It's a tough one. Camden would have probably known it was premature, but they also knew if they didn't take the Premier Division license when it was offered to them they wouldn't be asked again.

                      In their first year they were competitive. Lost three games at home by a kick, if they'd won them they'd have been in the mix for the finals. Unfortunately they've been less competitive every year since then.
                      There's some good people down there at Camden. But it's so hard to keep morale up at a club when you're getting belted by 100 points every week.

                      Follow me on Twitter - @tealfooty

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                      • Norris Lurker
                        Almost Football Legend
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2972

                        #12
                        [Moved this discussion to a new thread to separate from the tipping comp]

                        Play on!

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                        • Pekay
                          Well retired, still sore
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 2134

                          #13
                          Where do you go from here? You can't just create a club out of thin air to represent the west - no-one would care enough to volunteer, it would be soulless.

                          And people would be reluctant to play for a Camden when they already play for SWS, or Campbelltown, or Penrith.....

                          There's no simple solution. Penrith would need Howell Oval, a junior pipeline which they have in place to a degree..

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                          • Mechanic
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2021
                            • 9

                            #14
                            Originally posted by andreww1
                            You’re not making a lot of sense there Old Puppy. I suggest you only post when you are sober, or is that just the dementia kicking in?
                            But the gist of your msg is there are some at your club that want to buy me a burger? Given the loss to Norths on Sunday I suggest you hang on to your $ and buy a few more players in and send some of those local juniors back to Reserve grade.
                            Cheers!
                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            Salty Andreww1, love it!! To be fair i couldn't work out what Old Puppy was going on about either, but looks like he was having a good night!!

                            Interesting results on the weekend. Top 2 look like the top 2 for now but looks like a bit of movement below that. Interesting to see if Wests and UTS can hang on. Ressies results are telling there.

                            Camden results have to be a worry. Looks like seniors went a bit better this week, but ressies 0 - 172!! Thats rough enough, but they lost by 224 points 2 weeks ago to UNSW and UNSW lost this weekend without kicking a goal. Thats a gap. What happens there?

                            Noone talks about womens seniors? Looks like a much more even comp.

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                            • Tom Wills
                              Warming the Bench
                              • May 2008
                              • 478

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mechanic
                              but ressies 0 - 172!! That's rough enough, but they lost by 224 points 2 weeks ago to UNSW and UNSW lost this weekend without kicking a goal. Thats a gap. What happens there?
                              Mechanic I see you are new to post but not sure if new to Sydney. What you have highlighted is the seismic change in Sydney Football over the last 5 years. The top club's arent just strong at the top end, they are strong through 4, 5, and even 6 teams. This is not a cycle that will change over time as some refer to when comparing Premiers over the last 20 years. What we are seeing is a structural, now institutional, problem. I am quite sure the North Shore Division 1 team would comfortably beat Camden - please this is not a criticism of Camden, but a statement as to how strong NS is.

                              Even with the dramatic improvement UTS in Prems this year they have still lost to NS by 82 points and Syd Uni by 112 points in Ressies.

                              The only structure I see that can work in the future is a 4 team competition of Syd Uni, NS, Easts, and Pennant Hills playing against each other in all 5 or 6 men's grades. Then a next competition structure including Camden, UTS, Wests, St G, Manly, East Coast, Penrith, and Power. And finally a third tier of the rest. The inequity is not just about the Prems teams, but all of the teams in the super clubs. They needed to be pulled out of the competition to create a more even playing field.

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