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I would expect that teams would have to apply against set criteria, not just ladder position, although you expect ladder position to be a big part of it.
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Surely yes PMCC...it would have to be voluntary for those top four, with some kind of 'sniff test' based on:-
- their willingness to endure the logistics of frequent travel,
- meager financial compensation for player inconvenience,
- cost to the club,
- ability to provide volunteers,
- sustainability (not just who is in the top four places at 'cut-off' time)
- ability of the club to survive 'back home'
- whether the supporters were willing to travel.
- ability to stretch the support staff in two directions on a weekend.
And, needless to say, it wouldn't solve the current problem of the better players deserting the lesser clubs to play where the opportunities are fruitiest
I think if you asked the Eagles how it was for them during those early NEAFL years then they'd say that it's better to be below the line at cut-off...and that's why they came back.
An interesting idea and I'd like to see it kicked around - who knows, it might be a winner.
We need something.Last edited by justabaraker; 17 December 2021, 05:10 PM.Comment
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North Shore Australian Football Club is very pleased to announce that Andrew “Buck” Rogers has been appointed as Men’s Senior Coach for the 2022 season.
Buck comes to North Shore with tremendous credentials in our game. Originally from South Australia, he played 242 games for Woodville-West Torrens in the SANFL, captaining the Eagles for six years and also captaining South Australia. Buck was also drafted into the AFL, playing eight games for Essendon and 75 for Geelong, including the 1992 Grand Final.
Since his playing days, Buck coached at Woodville-West Torrens, at West Adelaide under Andy Collins and was the runner for the Port Adelaide AFL side under Ken Hinkley. After moving to Sydney, he coached at Manly for four years, so knows the Sydney footy landscape very well.
After finishing his first session at Gore Hill in North Shore colours Buck said “I’m really excited and honoured to be appointed the Senior Men’s Coach for a club that I have long admired for their professionalism and culture. I’m looking forward to becoming part of the club, developing the players further and ultimately, contributing to sustained success over many years.”
Commenting on Buck’s appointment North Shore President John Goode said “This process has been about appointing someone with the knowledge, passion and commitment to continue the development of players, coaches and support staff in our senior men’s group, as well as the desire to contribute across the whole club. Buck’s football bio speaks for itself, but having observed his personal contribution in our competition in recent years, we’re confident he is a great fit for us”.Comment
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On the mooted state-wide comp....
And I went to a helluva lot of NEAFL matches in Canberra with just 4 or 5 visiting supporters, and another helluva lot in Sydney with just 4 or 5 visiting supporters...haunting echoes but no cheering and you can hear every word spoken by every player on the field....like turning up on training night.Comment
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Slightly different scenario with 4 teams from ACT and 4 from Sydney means (in theory) a 14 round comp with only 4 away (ie out of Sydney) games and 10 in Sydney.
And vica versa for the ACT teams.Comment
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The State League conversation is over 30 years old and it’s stale as hell.
Sydney and ACT clubs don’t have the resources to fund such a comp.
The players don’t what to have to spend half these their weekends to essentially play for nothing.
It’s all an admin wank.
We have a pathway for the elite players that miss the draft, it’s the VFL squads of the Swans and Giants.
Save the money and invest in properly funding senior footy in Sydney and that means ALL divisions.
The only club in Sydney that wants a state comp is the wankers from Sydney UniComment
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The AFL discussion paper does not specify the number of teams from each comp. They have tabled a broad concept of creating a state league positioned in between Premier League and VFL for both men and women. By their own admission there is still a lot of detail to be worked out. As others in this discussion have noted there are some key issues that will need to be addressed for it to work. Hence why it’s target commencement is not until 2024.
It is all part of their Pathways Project which looks at all aspects of AFL across NSW/ACT starting with Ozkick and working its way thru juniors, seniors, and then to this ‘elevated’ state league.
Lots of work still to be done but if (and its probably a very big If) they can get the funding and people to run it and support it then the overall Pathways Project will be a big positive for AFL in this state.
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UTS have made a few more quality signings, so you would feel should be more competitive again in 2022. Billy Kanakis a massive IN. Excitement machine!!! Will be one of the best players in the comp. Keep an eye outComment
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Such a great appointment for uts. 51 points ex afl staff in club and making a mockery of point system
Good luck. And well done on targeting local clubs for their junior players for money
U need more than buying a culture!Comment
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In no way associated with UTS, 5year!!! Just saw their signings on social media channels and heard Kanakis is moving for work up from Melbourne. So well in their right to get his services as opposed to going to one of the only 3 clubs that are any chance of winning Prem Div.Comment
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Within right to go there but… the leg up they get compared to other clubs is a joke.
If they had same points at penno, st George, manly would it be the same with recruitment.
They have more points to play around with .
It’s a system which doesn’t pass pub test, especially when ex afl staff are in there who pushed for the system in the first place and advocated heavily for it and supported uTs getting support.
We won’t change the rules on here but calling it out still needs to happen.
anyway everyone stay safe during Xmas, hopefully all get to spend it with family’s , and let’s hope this covid settles and we do learn to live with it and we can return to a little normality next year.
Triple vaxed already waiting for 4th dose to make sure footy comes backComment
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UTS have been 7th, last and last the previous 3 seasons. If high points allow them to recruit players it is doing exactly what is it meant to do. And who cares if an ex Syd AFL employee has taken an interest in them, its good for the game. I am sure if he was at your club you would be celebrating his connections and energy.
Though in saying the above I don't believe interstate recruits will help UTS until they have a core group of long term local players - players who turn up to each preseason session to create a club culture. The problems with interstate recruits is that they are here for work, and footy isn't their priority and in general they go "home".
Good luck to UTS for positive recruiting and hopefully higher points will help. As Westy said if these players didn't go to UTS they would have gone to Syd Uni, Easts or North Shore - making the strongest teams stronger. Current experience is that interstate players who live in or near the City don't travel to St George, Manly, Penno or East Coast.Comment
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UTS squatters started their club in other clubs back yard. What gives them the right to have their feeder clubs. Yes it is now a problem for EastUNSW, Balmain, SydUni, West and Maroubra that they will loose their juniors.
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Sorry I meant to start with - As an outsider looking in !Comment
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Clubman .. why the hate for UTS? A couple of comments
* Where would their 8+ teams go if there were not in the comp?
* They are 10 years older than Randwick / Maroubra....... will you hate Randwick if they do a Manly and get to Prems one day?
* Why Squatters ... surely when Easts merged with UNSW and they choose Village Green they relinquished Trumper?
* Why is Newtown not in your gun... they are well run and could be a strong club in coming years.
* Finally I don't know of many forfeits for the City Clubs... there is an argument that the East and particularly the lower North Shore needs another club.
Clubman ... it's easy to "hate" vs grow AFL in Sydney. you seem to have lots of hate........Comment
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