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  • 5yearplan
    Warming the Bench
    • Sep 2016
    • 272

    #16
    Uts….. best leg up given again with points and inside info from each club with ex afl employees there.

    New year new list and unlimited points compared to rest.

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    • Mr Magoo
      Senior Player
      • May 2008
      • 1255

      #17
      Where can you find the results ?

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      • justabaraker
        Regular in the Side
        • Jul 2012
        • 965

        #18
        Originally posted by Mr Magoo
        Where can you find the results ?
        Use the link on the website - same place as in the past, but different layout

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        • Mr Magoo
          Senior Player
          • May 2008
          • 1255

          #19
          Originally posted by justabaraker
          Use the link on the website - same place as in the past, but different layout
          Is there an app that you can use - in the past it was Gameday.

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          • Norris Lurker
            Almost Football Legend
            • Jan 2003
            • 2972

            #20
            Originally posted by Mr Magoo
            Is there an app that you can use - in the past it was Gameday.
            Play HQ don't have an app. When I did the online training webinar they kept saying it was mobile-friendly, and it doesn't seem too bad on a mobile; but still a bit clunky.

            Follow me on Twitter - @tealfooty

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            • bomber.
              Warming the Bench
              • Jan 2017
              • 163

              #21
              Originally posted by 5yearplan
              Uts….. best leg up given again with points and inside info from each club with ex afl employees there.

              New year new list and unlimited points compared to rest.
              Watched UTS round 1 and won’t be surprised if they play in the GF. They were very good.
              We’ve worked our bums off for 10 years to get a crack and still haven’t got there. Obviously don’t have the right contacts

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              • Jupiter
                Warming the Bench
                • Sep 2010
                • 243

                #22
                Originally posted by bomber.
                Watched UTS round 1 and won’t be surprised if they play in the GF. They were very good.
                We’ve worked our bums off for 10 years to get a crack and still haven’t got there. Obviously don’t have the right contacts
                Interesting. Yes I've been told by folks at at least 3 clubs over about 2years isn't it.... stories about those two fellows who moved there straight from AFL Sydney and set out manipulating the rules which they brought in themselves and used to their advantage. Apparently also breached all of the recruitment and pathway "rules" they used to enforce against other clubs to strengthen themselves. Its been written about here a lot. They've probably done some good, fair work too at strengthening the Bats, that is positive as a good club historically. Tom Wills and others will say its all good to "even the comp". I agree with you here about their likely quick improvement but doubt you are correct longer term. You put in a decade and whilst a cup might not come you build a strong sustainable club. The other model relies on administrators who will continue their careers elsewhere when it suits them, and their old friends at Moore Park continuing to assist them - its not a community build from ground up which tends to be more sustainable.

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                • 5yearplan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 272

                  #23
                  It’s sad and wrong and all turn a blind eye.

                  Clear as day what has gone on

                  The arguments for years on points , structures , pathways was dictated by the guys now in UTS.

                  Just need a decent media and following to expose it.

                  Making the competition strong is good but manipulating it from within and then jumping ship steering it and then behind the scenes influencing it is wrong.

                  It’s sad. Core clubs who have endless people involved get screwed. Not just prems clubs either.

                  Uts. Is a joke a leg up which has been allowed to do as they please with the support of the lord Farquhar and mini lee when they were employed and now they use rules they created to benefit

                  It’s sad.

                  Based on predictions I sure all clubs would prefer anyone bar them getting a leg up.

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                  • 5yearplan
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 272

                    #24
                    Ranting again but Jupiter hit it

                    You look at all of the clubs

                    North shore… battled for a while and then redirected no leg up they get nothing no point assistance

                    Unsw, they developed and have a awesome program

                    Penno same, same model consistent and if you look at last 10-15 year solid club which no hand outs

                    East coast, take neafl out similar to penno. Growth area and can mirror a model like penno and grow Norwest

                    St George, I see as a similar model to penno and ece even north shore again no leg up

                    Wests, leg ups and wasting of money, juniors neglected and issues there and afl gives a leg up

                    Syd uni, neafl hand out and model supported them, they used system well but they have developed kids, maybe stole some but haven’t been rewarded as much with points

                    Manly is manly. But no leg ups really

                    Uts. Had a points system put in place when clubs disagreed , the same afl syd staff run club who set rules and they allow it to occur year on year. Stole pathway clubs how that is fair. If this was any o th we state it would be a enquiry

                    Camden …. Whilst gone absolute crap. Set to fail, encouraged by ex afl staff who has this club inject massive money, promised support yet the only one who had support was the club they went too

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                    • skaterboi1973
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 14

                      #25
                      Originally posted by 5yearplan
                      Wests, leg ups and wasting of money, juniors neglected and issues there and afl gives a leg up
                      Curious to know what leg ups, wasted money, neglected juniors and issues that you know of.

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                      • 5yearplan
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 272

                        #26
                        Last 15 years for the success they had money they spend on prems, no juniors development for a number of years yet being one of the oldest clubs. Plus a points benefit compared to other teams who have developed and worked well with pathways.The afl facilitate it the same way by allowing points to recruit and not develop.

                        This is a opinion but I would dare say a lot out there would agree. Some may not but the system clearly has issues.

                        UTS is a different story but wests still has had a leg up.

                        Camden is one I feel for thrown out to wolves and then left out to dry and they lost a lot of money to jump in and then get lack of support.

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                        • tara
                          Senior Player
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 1514

                          #27
                          Originally posted by 5yearplan
                          Last 15 years for the success they had money they spend on prems, no juniors development for a number of years yet being one of the oldest clubs. Plus a points benefit compared to other teams who have developed and worked well with pathways.The afl facilitate it the same way by allowing points to recruit and not develop.

                          This is a opinion but I would dare say a lot out there would agree. Some may not but the system clearly has issues.

                          UTS is a different story but wests still has had a leg up.

                          Camden is one I feel for thrown out to wolves and then left out to dry and they lost a lot of money to jump in and then get lack of support.
                          Sorry but why would you feel for Camden - they had the opportunity to work with clubs in their area and went on their own tangent. I can speak openly on this. I dont trust them and never will. They had a JV with my club and used it as an opportunity to to feather their own nest rather than work together.

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                          • 5yearplan
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 272

                            #28
                            It’s a opinion but I don’t believe Camden being in prems was supported to be in prems there shouldn’t of been a need for a JV.

                            Plenty of southwest clubs have been in and out together and ongoing.

                            It’s purely a comment on what the league promised and under delivered.

                            Clearly they struggled but it wasn’t helped.

                            I don’t think any prems club to be in top tier should be joint venturing .

                            South west Sydney has been neglected as a whole from top to bottom
                            Clubs for years.

                            Campbelltown powerhouse once upon ago now a JV team.

                            Your club Tara, great ground cracking sponsor Mounties and still needs to JV. The league should be right in the growth region they aren’t but that is a a seperate discussion

                            This was based on points and leg ups and last few years in prems

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