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  • jude_boltons_babe
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    • Jan 2003
    • 761

    #16
    i havent been well and i had a sore throat but i was still screaming my lungs out
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    • JF_Bay22_SCG
      expat Sydneysider
      • Jan 2003
      • 3978

      #17
      Originally posted by desredandwhite
      JF, what the cheer squad needs is to find a new home. Your current position is horrible. Lousy view, big empty gaping chasm of a walkway behind you so you can't get the hill involved. The Noble would be ideal, but you'll have to get rid of Kenny first Good luck with that.
      No offence Des, but we have been there done that back in the 80s. It was a joke. People all stand at the fence as it is. It would be even harder getting floggers & flags over the railing. Plus as you said Kenny & the gang would hate it. Can't say the people in the gentille members area would enjoy it much either.

      I agree the seats we have are mega crap. Compare it to the CS area seating at grounds like the MCG & especially the Gabba for example. This is one of the reasons why I hate the SCG so much & pine for that area of the ground to be re-configured.

      But moving the CS is only going to move the problems we have to the other end of the ground.

      JF
      "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
      (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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      • floppinab
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 1681

        #18
        Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG

        But moving the CS is only going to move the problems we have to the other end of the ground.

        JF
        The contrast between what Port had on Sunday and what we had was damning and an indictment, not on the supporters trying to make it work, but on the club for not doing anything about it to date.

        The club needs to kick a bunch of Brewongle concourse reserve seaters out to new seats and give half a bay there (maybe next to the race) to the CS. At the very least give them a section in the GA area under the scoreboard. They don't need to be behind the goals and in fact would look a lot better separated from the goals.

        When we give opposition CS a better spot than our own then something is wrong.

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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #19
          Traditionally at all grounds the cheersquad has been behind the goals. The exception to that was Melbourne in the 70's and 80's had a section in the top of the old southern stand at the MCG. It was good for them because they were out of the weather but it was a lousy place to cheer from.

          The idea of being behind the goals is to add colour to the celebrations when a goal has been scored as well as to wave everything when the opposition are shooting for goal to put them off.

          I don't think that the position of the cheersquad at the SCG is really a problem. However, it should be the cheersquad who leads the chanting etc at the game, not joining in with the others when they are in voice.

          JF, please don't think I'm having a go for the sake of it, I used to be in the SMFC official cheersquad in the 70's. I love the idea of them and the colour and atmosphere that they can add to the game.

          In the "old days" if you wanted to wave a flag, you provided your own, and they were usually home made, much better than the AFL approved ones. However the "floggers" and "Patties" belonged to the cheersquad. One other thing about those days, if some other teams run through ripped, there was always a camaraderie where the other team would help out. How do the cheersquads all get on these days?
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          • JF_Bay22_SCG
            expat Sydneysider
            • Jan 2003
            • 3978

            #20
            Originally posted by floppinab
            The contrast between what Port had on Sunday and what we had was damning and an indictment, not on the supporters trying to make it work, but on the club for not doing anything about it to date.

            The club needs to kick a bunch of Brewongle concourse reserve seaters out to new seats and give half a bay there (maybe next to the race) to the CS. At the very least give them a section in the GA area under the scoreboard. They don't need to be behind the goals and in fact would look a lot better separated from the goals.

            When we give opposition CS a better spot than our own then something is wrong.
            Port's Cheer Squad & Outer Army were in the worst spot in the whole ground. The seats up there are shockers to be honest.

            We have sat in the Brewongle concourse before. It proved a complete disaster, with our chants often clashing with Peter's.

            At the start of last year we were given the choice of moving to the O'Reilly. Several wanted to go there, many said if we did they would leave the squad. So we stayed where we were.

            You are DEAD RIGHT though Floppin. It is not my fault the Cheer Squad is crap. Those of us who are involved ARE doing our best. It is not the club's fault either, as they ARE trying to at least help us in generating a bigger membership. But it is their RESPONSABILITY. The sooner I realised that it wasn't mine personally, the more relaxed I have become.

            To me it is more an indication that we still have some way at developing a truly "footy" culture at our club. A culture like they have at Melbourne clubs where young kids are clambering to get involved in the club's official cheer squad because of the sense of honour that appears to hold.

            Oh well, such is life. We won a Premiership. That is all that matters.

            JF
            "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
            (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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            • Glenn
              ROLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
              • Mar 2003
              • 2443

              #21
              Unfortunatly would be part of the CS, but not in the position to get a season ticket (as opposed to just the CS membership), so that puts the kybosh on that
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              • JF_Bay22_SCG
                expat Sydneysider
                • Jan 2003
                • 3978

                #22
                Originally posted by goswannie14
                JF, please don't think I'm having a go for the sake of it, I used to be in the SMFC official cheersquad in the 70's. I love the idea of them and the colour and atmosphere that they can add to the game.

                In the "old days" if you wanted to wave a flag, you provided your own, and they were usually home made, much better than the AFL approved ones. However the "floggers" and "Patties" belonged to the cheersquad. One other thing about those days, if some other teams run through ripped, there was always a camaraderie where the other team would help out. How do the cheersquads all get on these days?
                Hey GS14. I'm not angry or upset at you raising your comments. You are a member of this club & can express your opinion as you see fit. I'm long over taking anything personally any more, which i guess is a good thing.

                Things are not that dissimilar to what they used to be in your days at the Lake. All of the giant flags we wave behind the goals are flags that are personally owned (myself, Beaussie, Silent Lurker for example). Several of the signs we hold up have actually been painted by BAM BAM.

                Yes, we have squad flags that are the property of the Squad. The Sydney-based ones are stored with the floggers and pattie dukes in a store room under the Churchill Stand.

                The same ettiquette in terms of banners etc still applies as it did in the old days. If a CS has trouble getting their banner up, the other CS opts to help out. We have often had the Crows & Eagles Cheer Squads have to hold our banner up for us over there, because we haven't had the numbers to do it ourselves.

                Cheer Squads have become a part of the squeaky clean corporate product as anything else in football. These days banners have become at times little more than glorified adverts. It gets a bit embarrassing holding up something that said "Sydney Swans & Ford-a winning team". But the club is footing the bill so we do as they say. If it makes people at the SCG drive Ford cars, well all & good I guess.

                JF
                "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  #23
                  Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG

                  Cheer Squads have become a part of the squeaky clean corporate product as anything else in football. These days banners have become at times little more than glorified adverts. It gets a bit embarrassing holding up something that said "Sydney Swans & Ford-a winning team". But the club is footing the bill so we do as they say. If it makes people at the SCG drive Ford cars, well all & good I guess.

                  JF
                  When the club was sponsored by Just Jeans, we (the cheersquad) would get paid to have something incorporating the just jeans name/logo on the reverse side. It's hard coming up with ideas though.

                  BTW does the cs operate on a committe basis? Just wondering how it all works. As I said, I'm all in favour of them, but at my age I enjoy the match by screaming at the umpires from my seat, rather than from within the cs.
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                  • msabenny
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                    • Jul 2005
                    • 73

                    #24
                    Re: Re: Where was the cheersquad?

                    Originally posted by goswannie14
                    I was going to make that comment but thought I would be howled down by JF. Apart from someone (I assume JF) banging a drum there was no noise from the cheersquad, and we were only 4 bays around from them. There was more noise from the Brewongle stand on the flank...and from the Power cheersquad about 10 bays away from us.

                    Hey GS14

                    That someone banging the drum was me.

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                    • goswannie14
                      Leadership Group
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 11166

                      #25
                      Re: Re: Re: Where was the cheersquad?

                      Originally posted by msabenny
                      Hey GS14

                      That someone banging the drum was me.

                      MSABenny
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                      • Grant
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 579

                        #26
                        Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG



                        I reckon it would be heaps cool to have a Swans unofficial "drinkers support bay". People can then sit near the CS, have a beer, & help with the chants & cheers.


                        This is something i have tried to do before in melb but never really worked,maybe i didnt really try hard enough to get people because i was to busy watching the game and drinking my beer.

                        [/I] [I]
                        Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG

                        Lescygnes for example moved away from the Cheer Squad because he wanted to drink. I know others have been in the same boat over the years as well.JF



                        Thats me included too,i used to not mind at all being there or at least when in sydney come up and say hello to cs but would never really sit with them coz of the alcohol factor.
                        Last edited by Grant; 11 April 2006, 08:48 PM.
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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #27
                          There was a guy in Swanston St that used to bang a mean drum (and upturned paint can) - perhaps he could be recruited and sent to Sydney to add noise...
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                          • JF_Bay22_SCG
                            expat Sydneysider
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 3978

                            #28
                            Originally posted by NMWBloods
                            There was a guy in Swanston St that used to bang a mean drum (and upturned paint can) - perhaps he could be recruited and sent to Sydney to add noise...
                            Nah, I reckon the guy with stands on Swanson St with the bango and the dog that barks on queue to "How much is that doggy in the window" would be a far greater addition to the CS, wouldn't you?

                            When the ball is in our opponents attacking Forward 50 we can send the pooch over the fence to try and punch a hole in the Sherrin with his teeth.

                            JF
                            "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                            (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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                            • Matt79
                              Bring it on!
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 3143

                              #29
                              Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
                              Nah, I reckon the guy with stands on Swanson St with the bango and the dog that barks on queue to "How much is that doggy in the window" would be a far greater addition to the CS, wouldn't you?

                              When the ball is in our opponents attacking Forward 50 we can send the pooch over the fence to try and punch a hole in the Sherrin with his teeth.

                              JF
                              The pig didn't work when we sent that over!
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                              • cruiser
                                What the frack!
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 6114

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                                There was a guy in Swanston St that used to bang a mean drum (and upturned paint can) - perhaps he could be recruited and sent to Sydney to add noise...
                                Sydney doesnt need or want rabble trash from Melbourne. It has enough of its own
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