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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #16
    Originally posted by BarneyG
    When you have two shot knees, can't do any match practice, and still plays like he does is an outstanding effort......True Champion
    Maybe true champions deserve graceful retirements? We'll see how his entire season is.
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • Zlatorog
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2006
      • 1748

      #17
      In the end it will be Magic's decision when he wants to retire. Let's hope he is going on a high.

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      • Go Swannies
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2003
        • 5697

        #18
        Magic's goal kicking (and Baz' and Nicky's) is a worry. But they started last season poorly, too (how far to take that analogy for everything??). I watched Magic a lot last night (when the camera wasn't on him) and he was running and tagging and leading hard all night. The most athletic performance I've seen from him all year (and last, and the year before).

        Magic is the foil for Baz - when they click their ability to work together really is magical. So it's worth keeping him in there for assists even when his kicking is poor. And MOL's ability to create space is remarkable - in a wheelchair he'd probably be more value to us that anyone we have right now to put in his place.

        Ted left the Bombers because he wanted to play forward, didn't he? I presume Ted came up to have a go at filling the gap that Magic's departure would leave. That has to be a long term project . . .

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        • BarneyG
          On the Rookie List
          • Apr 2004
          • 161

          #19
          Originally posted by Go Swannies
          Magic's goal kicking (and Baz' and Nicky's) is a worry. But they started last season poorly, too (how far to take that analogy for everything??). I watched Magic a lot last night (when the camera wasn't on him) and he was running and tagging and leading hard all night. The most athletic performance I've seen from him all year (and last, and the year before).

          Magic is the foil for Baz - when they click their ability to work together really is magical. So it's worth keeping him in there for assists even when his kicking is poor. And MOL's ability to create space is remarkable - in a wheelchair he'd probably be more value to us that anyone we have right now to put in his place.

          Ted left the Bombers because he wanted to play forward, didn't he? I presume Ted came up to have a go at filling the gap that Magic's departure would leave. That has to be a long term project . . .
          Well said/written....

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          • BarneyG
            On the Rookie List
            • Apr 2004
            • 161

            #20
            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            Maybe true champions deserve graceful retirements? We'll see how his entire season is.
            Would the same thing be said, if he kicked 4.1???????

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            • SimonH
              Salt future's rising
              • Aug 2004
              • 1647

              #21
              I kept tally on the night, and 1.5 for mine. (There was one that might have been interpreted as touched/rushed on the line, but it was going through for a point anyway, so I credited it to him.) While it's true that he would have tried to pass off one or two of them if he was taking them in the last quarter of the GF, all were gettable and a pretty high proportion were out-and-out easy.

              I agree with everything that's been said about his athletic performance, hard working (including crucial tackle that IIRC led to a 3rd-quarter goal), great marking of the low ball etc. But at the end of the day, he's in the team to score goals (or, if he feels like palming them off, to make sure the team scores goals). We cannot carry a key forward who misses more than he kicks in a tight game against a form opponent. Sat night has got to be a one-off for the rest of the year.

              Raw numbers of goals and behinds for the team can be misleading. 15.17 wouldn't have been too bad if we took a lot of speculative shots from the 50 metre arc or outside. However, in a game where we created a huge number of quality chances, it was shocking. To dominate the 2nd and (most of) the 3rd in the way that we did, and not have a 5 goal quarter the whole match, was pretty disappointing. It was a continuation of the motif established in the Carlton and Melbourne games, where we don't make the opposition pay enough on the scoreboard during our periods of dominance; which makes for either an artificially close game, or a loss of a game we should have won.

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              • ROK Lobster
                RWO Life Member
                • Aug 2004
                • 8658

                #22
                Originally posted by BarneyG
                Would the same thing be said, if he kicked 4.1???????
                Isn't the point that he kicked 1.4? Meaning that he's not as valuable a player as he might otherwise be. I daresay that if he kicked 4.1 people would be saying how valuable MOL was because he was still kicking so straight.

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                • Carolyn
                  Randomness muchly
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 986

                  #23
                  He had 5 shots at goal. If he had got 5.0, I don't think this thread would even exist at all.
                  My Pokemon brings all the boys to the yard and they're like "Wanna trade cards?"
                  "Damn right, I wanna trade cards. I can beat you, I've got Charizard!"

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                  • goswannie14
                    Leadership Group
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 11166

                    #24
                    Before Saturday night he had kicked 10.1, he's entitled to a bad night occassionally.
                    Does God believe in Atheists?

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                    • Bleed Red Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2057

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SimonH
                      We cannot carry a key forward who misses more than he kicks in a tight game against a form opponent.
                      I don't see how we are carrying him. He's still kicked the second most goals in the team this year (Plus many assists)

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                      • Go Swannies
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 5697

                        #26
                        How does his goal/behind ratio compare to Baz'? I know it's a lot better than Davis'.

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                        • GoBloods
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 244

                          #27
                          mol has a degenerative knee injury..meaning the knee will never get better/recover froom the initial injury.this has limited his kicking. where a few seasons ago 50m from goals wasnt beyond him, now it is . his range would now be 40m maximum. i am sure if he plays in a true full forward position for us he will prove his value over the current season and beyond

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                          • ROK Lobster
                            RWO Life Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 8658

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Go Swannies
                            How does his goal/behind ratio compare to Baz'? I know it's a lot better than Davis'.
                            It should be, he plays out of the goal square.

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Go Swannies
                              How does his goal/behind ratio compare to Baz'? I know it's a lot better than Davis'.
                              It helps when you kick from 30m rather than 50m.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                              • Go Swannies
                                Veterans List
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 5697

                                #30
                                MOL 10 G: 5 B
                                Baz 17:8
                                Nick 5:6

                                By the way, kicking from 20 metres out didn't help Baz on Saturday night. And Magic seems to spend a lot of time leading up the wings to free the middle up for Baz.

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