2025 List Management

[UUaswan]

Jeremy Cameron played his first 9 seasons at GWS: 427 goals in 171 games, 2.5 a game.

Charlie Curnow has played his first 9 seasons at Carlton: 313 goals in 149 games at 2.1 a game.

Since being traded to Geelong, Cameron has kicked 300 in 105 games at 2.86 goals a game of 5 seasons.

Geelong traded a first and two future firsts (13 15, 20) for Cameron (got two future seconds back). Worth it? (Without a doubt!).

Per afl tables and draft guru.

This big difference is that Charlie is 2 yrs older and contracted for 4 yrs.

Charlie also had ankle surgery at the end of last year not to mention 2 knee surgeries this year, 1 a month ago.

If we are stupid enough to go all in for that we need a recruitment clean out too.

[The Big Cat]

Reports on Channel 7 that Curnow’s management has reached out to Papley’s management about a trade.

Paps quickly said no.

[MattW]

Curnow is 29 next year and signed until the end of 2029 and a hefty salary. I can't see the sense in giving up Amartey and/or McDonald, 2 up and coming key forwards, and even draft picks. Does anyone remember Nankervis and Cameron? Curnow hasn't played since Round 20 to boot.

Jeremy Cameron played his first 9 seasons at GWS: 427 goals in 171 games, 2.5 a game.

Charlie Curnow has played his first 9 seasons at Carlton: 313 goals in 149 games at 2.1 a game.

Since being traded to Geelong, Cameron has kicked 300 in 105 games at 2.86 goals a game of 5 seasons.

Geelong traded a first and two future firsts (13 15, 20) for Cameron (got two future seconds back). Worth it? (Without a doubt!).

Per afl tables and draft guru.

[Nico]

Curnow is 29 next year and signed until the end of 2029 and a hefty salary. I can't see the sense in giving up Amartey and/or McDonald, 2 up and coming key forwards, and even draft picks. Does anyone remember Nankervis and Cameron? Curnow hasn't played since Round 20 to boot.

[UUaswan]

Clearly the calf muscles were an ongoing issue for Robbie and both the club and he would have realised his time was up at the senior level. Has been a solid contributor in defence over the journey

Why not come out and announce a retirement. Surely he isnt getting another contract elsewhere ?

He has been hanging by a knife edge contractually more than anyone to realise maybe his time is up, why not announce is properly and celebrate it.

Speaking or poorly announce sh8t, why would we get involved in a Doco about Mills not being selected, when he did what was asked of him trying to play in a GF where we got pumped. Whats the benefit of airing that ?

[Velour&Ruffles]

Nice - Let’s delist the one bloke who showed up for both grand final thrashings. Always loved fox but felt like he was constantly shafted by the Swans with contracts and games but still gave his all. Thought he was a seriously underrated superstar in defence. Sad to see one of my faves go.

I feel exactly the same. His desperate defence and smother vs the Dees in 2022 QF says it all. I also remember him taking a screamer and kicking the match winner in a boilover down at the Cattery a few years before that. His great gift was his versatility but I think that was also perhaps a bit of a curse - he was frequently Mr Fixit rather than being given a position to own.
Very sad to see him go.

[BRS328]

As you said, Fox is probably one of the few who could hold his head high in both grand finals. Did a number on Cameron in dire circumstances in ‘22. A great solider for the club and a pretty good footballer. Thanks for everything.

No offence to the other three as I admire anyone that puts on the red and white, but no surprise either.

Clearly the calf muscles were an ongoing issue for Robbie and both the club and he would have realised his time was up at the senior level. Has been a solid contributor in defence over the journey

[BFG]

Trading and list management is all about who is available or might be tempted to swap clubs, and for us it's about who would be willing to move home (and family) to Sydney. We are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to attracting players.

The delistings are no surprise and could be another round of them after Trade Week.

On AFL website - Curnow has told Carlton he's open to being traded elsewhere IF a trade can be arranged. Carlton have said he won't be traded (you have to continue to suffer here in mid table mediocrity with the rest of us Charlie LOL)

[Jimitron5000]

Shame about Fox. He was a very underrated footballer but injuries and age have conspired against him.
The others, not too surprising there. Given that only two were from the primary list I suspect there might be a couple more delistings to be announced.

[longmile]

Robbie Fox delisted probably means Rampe gets one more year on the rookie list

[stevoswan]

when do sed expect Swans exit iterviews and delisitngs

First delistings announced. Indhi Kirk, Caleb Mitchell, Ben Paton and get this.....Robbie Fox.

Sad for Robbie but this years injuries and his age weren't in his favour. North will probably give him a call.

PS: Oops, I didn't refresh this thread before posting this, I see this info had already been posted.

PPS: I don't want or think we need Curnow either. Swans, forget him and concentrate on a decent tall KPD.

[UUaswan]

Clearly Fox wanted to go on otherwise it would have been a retirement announcement.

Harsh but fair cant think of anyone else that has a year off at 32/33 and gets to play on

[imuninformedtwo]

As you said, Fox is probably one of the few who could hold his head high in both grand finals. Did a number on Cameron in dire circumstances in ‘22. A great solider for the club and a pretty good footballer. Thanks for everything.

No offence to the other three as I admire anyone that puts on the red and white, but no surprise either.

[longmile]

Nice - Let’s delist the one bloke who showed up for both grand final thrashings. Always loved fox but felt like he was constantly shafted by the Swans with contracts and games but still gave his all. Thought he was a seriously underrated superstar in defence. Sad to see one of my faves go.

[UUaswan]

Delisted Robbie Fox, Caleb Mitchell, Indhi Kirk and Ben Paton