Ben Mathews=Trade Bait

[The Red Barron]

You know it makes sense.

[Jeffers1984]

Prolly, but i doubt it would happen.

[robbieando]

Wonder if the Bulldogs would have any need for the handball KING after today's effort???

[The Red Barron]

Originally posted by robbieando
Wonder if the Bulldogs would have any need for the handball KING after today's effort???

He would look good in a doggies outfit and he could could be reunited with his first love.

[barry]

Benny was always going to be in trouble once the AFL decided to speed the game up.
He may like a handball or two, but his key strength was to be able to take the tackle. Souths should look at him.

Hard to beleive this guy captained us in a premiership year.

[The Red Barron]

Originally posted by barry
He may like a handball or two, but his key strength was to be able to take the tackle. Souths should look at him.

Thats harsh
































to souths

[smartplay]

best team on the field ALWAYS

the coach must have the best team on the field ALWAYS

if mathew is marginally worst off player than the present players (or other current players) that took his place past two weeks, then he should be in due to his seniority.
but if he is way off from the present players or his past on-field duty is better served by the present players, then he should remain out. It appears to be this situation at present.
Otherwise, the coach urging (the team to get out to win) rings hollow if he does not put up the best team. I am sure 4 points are not to be sacrificed for the sake of one player.
Mathew should take the initiative to stand aside not to obstruct the formation of the BEST team for HIS CLUB ( & be on standby) That is a smart decision. isn't it?
Are players (like Mathew) not paid if he is not choosen to play? If it is so, then perhaps there is some $compensation for him (due to senority?)

[Nico]

What was very noticeable yeaterday was the abscence of silly short kicks or handballing for the sake of handballing. These are 2 things that Mathews is adept at.

My thought on him is that he is a negative player and maybe as one poster said above, the game in 2006, he is 27, not pacy and may well have lost a bit of pace.

His absence yesterday was noted by a number of people. Did we miss him - a resounding NO.

[Nico]

Re: best team on the field ALWAYS

Originally posted by smartplay
the coach must have the best team on the field ALWAYS

if mathew is marginally worst off player than the present players (or other current players) that took his place past two weeks, then he should be in due to his seniority.
but if he is way off from the present players or his past on-field duty is better served by the present players, then he should remain out. It appears to be this situation at present.
Otherwise, the coach urging (the team to get out to win) rings hollow if he does not put up the best team. I am sure 4 points are not to be sacrificed for the sake of one player.
Mathew should take the initiative to stand aside not to obstruct the formation of the BEST team for HIS CLUB ( & be on standby) That is a smart decision. isn't it?
Are players (like Mathew) not paid if he is not choosen to play? If it is so, then perhaps there is some $compensation for him (due to senority?)

He is on a contract so gets paid regardless unless a performance base is built in.

I doubt any coach picks a team on seniority. Unless there is an injury how can anyone of yesterday's team be dropped.

MCVeigh got votes in some papers.

[The Red Barron]

Originally posted by Nico
What was very noticeable yeaterday was the abscence of silly short kicks or handballing for the sake of handballing. These are 2 things that Mathews is adept at.

My thought on him is that he is a negative player and maybe as one poster said above, the game in 2006, he is 27, not pacy and may well have lost a bit of pace.

His absence yesterday was noted by a number of people. Did we miss him - a resounding NO.

That is spot on. I have a feeling if Benny was playing maybe the scoreline would be less. There wasn't that indecisve "what to do" and it was very attacking.

[Glenn]

Possible trade bait, but on current form would struggle to get a first round pick for him.

[elroy67]

Re: Re: best team on the field ALWAYS

Originally posted by Nico
He is on a contract so gets paid regardless unless a performance base is built in.

He would get match payments, so missing a game would affect his income.

This was the issue with Matthew Croft and the Bulldogs a few years back. He was clearly in very good form but not selected due to the coach wanting to blood young players. He treatened to go to court about it. I'm not sure how it was resolved.

That said, Benny does not warrant a place on the senior side on form.

[damo the king]

you're kidding

My first post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So if he is as bad as you all think he is, wouldn't it be safe to assume that at the ripe old age of "27" that no one would want him??? Why not offer support instead, you have to remember that we have a team that everyone in Australia thinks is old and slow....

Ben has a place in this side and to those who say that they can't believed he captained us in a premiership year, are you really saying that you have a better idea of talent and leadership than Roosy, the coaches and the leadership group within the players...

He wasn;t selected as captain by winning a raffle!!

[Wardy]

Re: you're kidding

Originally posted by damo the king
My first post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So if he is as bad as you all think he is, wouldn't it be safe to assume that at the ripe old age of "27" that no one would want him??? Why not offer support instead, you have to remember that we have a team that everyone in Australia thinks is old and slow....

Ben has a place in this side and to those who say that they can't believed he captained us in a premiership year, are you really saying that you have a better idea of talent and leadership than Roosy, the coaches and the leadership group within the players...

He wasn;t selected as captain by winning a raffle!!

You've not watched alot of footy have you? Matthews is a liability - no one should be dropped to make way for him after the game on Saturday - its best free flowing game they have played in a while - LRT is still a bit indecisive as to whether to kick or handball - but Matthews just gets in the way and his disposals aren't that good. Sure he may kick the odd goal now and then - but thats about it. It may be harsh - but I think its fair.

[ScottH]

Re: Re: you're kidding

Originally posted by Wardy
You've not watched alot of footy have you? Matthews is a liability - no one should be dropped to make way for him after the game on Saturday - its best free flowing game they have played in a while - LRT is still a bit indecisive as to whether to kick or handball - but Matthews just gets in the way and his disposals aren't that good. Sure he may kick the odd goal now and then - but thats about it. It may be harsh - but I think its fair.

But we won a flag with him, so the liability is not that big.